Perhaps, but the cloak being over a century old tech and still a surprise in TOS makes it pretty sketchy. ENT really doesn't work as a prequel to TOS, it works as prequel to DIS pretty well though.
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He asked if the timeline changed after FC. I pointed out that it didn’t. Because, canonically, nothing was mentioned about the timeline changing. I’m using ‘canon’ as my evidence.
look, they obviously have money, they just don't use them on something as trivial as baseball cards when they can exploit their unsuspecting Ferengi friends for that!
I've always wondered why they didn't just retcon the crap out of everything at the end of "Storm Front."With the whole timeline up for grabs, they could have cleared up all of that stuff.
That there is variation within the technology and cloaking is an umbrella term for various types of devices.
Well, there were some changes since humans encountered the Borg (even if they are not called that) much sooner than Q Who or whatever episode Q decides to mess with humanity.
I'm weird too. I accept that continuity (visual and otherwise) is fluid and things will be changed in a modern production set in the same continuity.
In Balance of Terror they speak specifically about 'invisibility being theoretically possible' though, which is super odd thing to say if it has been known and seen to be perfectly practically possible for over a century and prominently used in a recent war.
Ok. But I think saying 'continuity is fluid' and 'there are multiple continuities' are just different ways of saying practically the same thing.
It is tough to tap dance around “Balance of Terror”.
I'd have never used cloaks in DSC. At all. But it is what it is and now we're stuck with it. We either ignore it or head canon our way around it.
Haven’t you heard? TOS is invalidated now. So it’s all ok
If that is their behind the scenes thinking, that’s fine. I just don’t want them to piss on my shoes and tell me it’s raining.
I doubt they're that brazen. I think it's just lazy writing and they're hoping we can ignore a lot of it and focus on everything else in the show. Sadly, we're Trekkies and we notice things.
I still say we can head canon a lot of this away as the experiences of only some Starfleet officers or classified technology but then I'm one of those fans who tries not to throw the baby out with the bath water. Trek can be notoriously dismissive of its own internal continuity for the sake of being "bold" and "exciting."
I still say we can head canon a lot of this away as the experiences of only some Starfleet officers or classified technology but then I'm one of those fans who tries not to throw the baby out with the bath water. Trek can be notoriously dismissive of its own internal continuity for the sake of being "bold" and "exciting."
Actually, I honestly don’t think that. I think that they’re just not overly concerned with TOS and ‘how it all fits together’ as some fans like to think they are. They are not watching old episodes of TOS to make sure that their writing isn’t contradicting it. They market the show as being a ten year prequel to TOS but pay it only the most minimal of lip service.
Now with that said, I don’t think there’s necessarily anything wrong with that, because despite what CBS states, I view DSC as its own thing, not connected to TOS in any way. I find that I enjoy the show much better that way. Just don’t ask me to accept DSC as a prequel to TOS when the producers of DSC don’t even care that much about it.
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Same here. Which is why I treat them as separate timelines. They can do what they do, and I can focus on the story.
There's a sadistic part of me that hopes DSC ends with the ship and crew returing to the 23rd century and changing the timeline so that it becomes the TOS aesthetic right down to the uniforms and ship appearances. That all of DSC up to the final season or even finale is retconned and we end the series heading straight for TOS. But that's not likely to happen.
It's a fine line. I'm more than happy tossing out stuff that doesn't work like UESPA (original edition),laser pistols, Vulcanis, Data's graduation date and the 1701 being an Earth ship with out creating an new continuity because that stuff has little or no impact on the larger universe. I'm also cool with changing or updating visuals and "surprise" relatives for the same reason.
Mistakes are one thing, intentional retcons are another. Like the Disc Ent looking different from TOS Ent is not a mistake it is an intentional change. Also, that they referred the Klingon cloaks as 'invisibility screens' the term used in Balance of Terror strongly implies that they did not just forget that episode, they intentionally contradicted it. And that is the point at which I'm personally done with headcanoning explanations. If the writers intentionally contradict the old continuity then I treat it as separate continuity. In the long run it will be way easier that way.
As I said earlier, FC had nothing to do with it.
