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Series 13 not shooting until September

Increasingly it looks like RTD was some kind of superhuman and I'm amazed he didn't kill himself through overwork (though another thought, outside of Planet of the Dead how often did Who film abroad in those days?)
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maybe this is more accurate then one would think?
 
I mean, why should anyone be called an entitled prick for wanting a steady schedule for their favorite sci-fi show? Its not science. Its not impossible, either. It just requires hard work. Its still a fairly popular show that audiences will tune in for, and thus some more effort should be put to keep it an annual event. If you cant have that, then at least have the courtesy of releasing all episodes at once. Its bad enough you have to wait 18 months for subpar viewing, anyway.
 
If you cant have that, then at least have the courtesy of releasing all episodes at once.
IMO, releasing all episodes at once is even worse. I'm really not a fan of binge watching, and I'm glad that even the streaming services are starting to go back to weekly episode releases. Having weekly episode releases actually helps me get through the week by giving me something to look forward to. I'd rather have weekly releases of "subpar viewing" than a full season of excellence dropped all at once.
 
Well, its going to that model more and more.. Netflix, Amazon, etc..
Lets look at lost in space.. April 2018, and 2nd season End of December 2019.. so 18 months.. I don't expect a season in 2020, maybe early 2021..
With alot of stuff.. I expect it when I see it.. Though I would Love for them to try to keep somewhat of a scheduale..
 
IMO, releasing all episodes at once is even worse. I'm really not a fan of binge watching, and I'm glad that even the streaming services are starting to go back to weekly episode releases. Having weekly episode releases actually helps me get through the week by giving me something to look forward to. I'd rather have weekly releases of "subpar viewing" than a full season of excellence dropped all at once.
I agree, I like have the next episode of a favourite show drop once a week rather than bang that's the lot for the next 18 months.
 
I like to binge some things but mostly I'm still old school enough to enjoy the weekly drop of an episode.

If they are going to make us wait it'd be good if they upped the episode count a bit. (Not that they will)

Talking of which, if you had the choice of the below options, which would you choose given they all effectively amount to the same number of episodes over time?
  • A new series every year but only 8 episodes?
  • A new series every eighteen months of 12 episodes?
  • A new series every two years of 16 episodes?
I do wonder if the BBC have considered cutting the number of episodes again? Yes Call the Midwife is regular as clockwork but it only has 8 episodes plus a Christmas special as opposed to Who's 10+1 option. Yes their episodes are 60 minutes rather than 50 but I can't imagine that makes a huge budgetary difference.
 
^They just tend to do international/location filming for the Christmas specials I think. There might be CGI, if only in the long shots to give the illusion that it's Poplar in the 60s, but I imagine nowhere near the kind of work Who needs.
 
If they're slightly longer, too. its bad enough we went from 13 to 10, its worse that the average length is still a normal 48 minute episode. Pathetic.
 
And don't shoot outside the U.K (for example the current season of Doctor Who spent a chunk of time filming in South Africa).

CGI and motion controlled cameras are surely not more expensive than-- Never mind. The show can't be bothered to leave Earth to begin with, referring to adventures that took place offscreen is a show given its basic core premise (alien exploring all the universe in time and space, not the romper room teletubby revisionism of "I'm a madman in a box, har har snarf I'm deh fwunniwest"). My cat could hack up more interesting scripts.
 
Don't they all have relatively fixed locations/sets? Not sure any of them would have the post production effects work Who has either. I'm not wholly disagreeing because they do all come back year in year out, but I imagine Who is a much harder beast to make.

Increasingly it looks like RTD was some kind of superhuman and I'm amazed he didn't kill himself through overwork (though another thought, outside of Planet of the Dead how often did Who film abroad in those days?)

It is annoying though, especially just as Jodie is growing into the role. She needs momentum. Good job they've already filmed the Christmas/NY special at least!

The only super person was Verity Lambert and her original vision for the show, of which each series she reigned over had far more episodes under far more laborious circumstances. No CGI of any sort didn't help matters. The first season (1963-4) alone ran for 42 weeks...

Everything since has been altered in new directions and varying audiences, each up to the individual viewer to embrace if desired.

Meh. Gaps happen, especially with short seasons.

No sense getting all twisted about it.

Ever since 1985.

Given how superficial and hollow these stories often are, I agree. DW was never much on substance but it's outdone tabloids in sensationalism nowadays.

Capaldi's finale really was a considerable gift to sci-fi fans.
 
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Talking of which, if you had the choice of the below options, which would you choose given they all effectively amount to the same number of episodes over time?
  • A new series every year but only 8 episodes?
  • A new series every eighteen months of 12 episodes?
  • A new series every two years of 16 episodes?
Annual eight episode seasons would be my preference of these options.
I do wonder if the BBC have considered cutting the number of episodes again?
I suspect season thirteen will stay at ten episodes, but if that is indeed Whittaker's last season and season fourteen introduces a new Doctor, it would not surprise me if that had a reduced episode count.
 
IIRC, one of the co-production deals basically ensures the show until a season 15. So even if season 13 is Whittaker's final season (which is likely) we're guaranteed at least two seasons with another Doctor, and if these gaps continue, we're guaranteed Doctor Who until the end of 2024.

Just ask netflix for the money and let them co-produce. The show is frankly bigger than the BBC and it's budget at this stage.

Yep. And it was two co-production deals that are being used to help fund Series 13-15. One with China via Shanghai Media Group, and another with Warner Bros. via their upcoming HBO Max. Honestly, with ratings sadly down (And I'm including both Series 9 & 10 along with Series 12 on this one. Series 11 was a fluke ratings-wise going by the post-Matt Smith numbers.) these co-production deals might be the savior we're all looking for.

Classic Who's budget was all on the Beeb, which is what led to it's cancellation. Granted exacerbated by a regime that was embarrassed by sci-fi purposely sabotaging it by airing it in the same time slot as the most watched show in the UK (I'm still convinced that the show itself, Andrew Cartmel, Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred all being so wonderfully outspoken against Thatcher and all of her bullshit was another reason that the Beeb took the series out back and shot it in the head, although I've never seen any evidence even hinting that this was actually the case. Just idle speculation on my part.).

With two co-production partners now in the mix the chances of the revival series living past Series 15 have greatly increased. Granted, this will also probably depend on how well the show does in China and on HBO Max.
 
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