Pike novels

[JD]

Well, ahem, there was CHILD OF TWO WORLDS back in 2015. Modesty forbids me mentioning the author.

More recently, there was THE ENTERPRISE WAR by John Jackson Miller.

Just as an FYI, The Enterprise War is a tie in to the second season of Discovery.

If you can get a hold of it, either through the comics DVD or the new collection released by IDW a few years back, then I highly recommend Early Voyages, it's one of my favorite Trek comic series.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Just as an FYI, The Enterprise War is a tie in to the second season of Discovery.

I think Greg Cox knows that, but more importantly, it's also a Pike novel by any conceivable metric. Drastic Measures is another Pike novel, although perhaps less-so, as he isn't the main character.

Most Pike novels in the past have been TOS tie-ins. Most in the future will probably be Discovery tie-ins. Unless he gets his own show, and likely his own tie-ins.

 

[Christopher]

^Sure. After all, at this point, Christopher Pike has appeared in nearly six times as many Discovery and Short Treks episodes as TOS episodes, and that's only if you count "The Cage" and both parts of "The Menagerie" separately. So Pike is more of a Discovery character now than a TOS character. Plus he's also a Kelvin character. The series doesn't matter; a Pike story is a Pike story.

 

[EnriqueH]

I haven’t seen Discovery yet, but the photos/clips of the actor portraying him seems to have a certain stature and air about him that strikes me as fun to watch. I guess I’ll see once I get that far into the show.

 

[Christopher]

I haven’t seen Discovery yet, but the photos/clips of the actor portraying him seems to have a certain stature and air about him that strikes me as fun to watch. I guess I’ll see once I get that far into the show.

Yeah, I think at this point we can say that of the four actors who've played Pike (counting Sean Kenney), Jeffrey Hunter is the third-best.

 

[tomswift2002]

Yeah, I think at this point we can say that of the four actors who've played Pike (counting Sean Kenney), Jeffrey Hunter is the third-best.

I don’t know about that. I wasn’t that impressed with Discovery’s Pike or his actor. Whereas Bruce Greenwood I still find managed to take some of Hunter’s Pike and meld around it a new Pike. Of course it helps that in the Abramsverse, Pike and the Enterprise never visited Talos IV, as the Enterprise was not launched until 2258, 13 years after its prime counterpart in 2245, and 5 years after Hunter’s Pike visited Talos in 2253. So Greenwood’s Pike never met Vina, and Greenwood seemed to recognize that that wouldn’t have an impact on his Pike.

 

[KRAD]

^ Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I think Anson Mount has been magnificent in the role.

 

[Leto_II]

I don’t know about that. I wasn’t that impressed with Discovery’s Pike or his actor. Whereas Bruce Greenwood I still find managed to take some of Hunter’s Pike and meld around it a new Pike. Of course it helps that in the Abramsverse, Pike and the Enterprise never visited Talos IV, as the Enterprise was not launched until 2258, 13 years after its prime counterpart in 2245, and 5 years after Hunter’s Pike visited Talos in 2253. So Greenwood’s Pike never met Vina, and Greenwood seemed to recognize that that wouldn’t have an impact on his Pike.

We don't necessarily know that Kelvin Timeline Pike never had a Talos IV experience in that universe -- the 2009 and 2013 movies are simply agnostic on the subject one way or the other, and given how shifted-around events got after 2233, perhaps Pike was commanding a different vessel when the signals from the Talos star-group were detected. (Matter of fact, in the IDW Countdown to Darkness comics, there was yet another starship Enterprise of an unnamed class between Archer's ship and the 2258 movie-starship, and maybe Kelvin Pike commanded this one for a time after Kelvin April's tenure was up).

 

[JD]

I think Greg Cox knows that, but more importantly, it's also a Pike novel by any conceivable metric. Drastic Measures is another Pike novel, although perhaps less-so, as he isn't the main character.

I posted that for @EnriqueH, not Greg. He didn't know about any recent Pike novels, so I thought there was a good chance he might not have been aware that The Enterprise War was tied into Discovery, rather than TOS.

 

[EnriqueH]

Wait a second, Discovery is Kelvin timeline?

 

[Christopher]

I posted that for @EnriqueH, not Greg. He didn't know about any recent Pike novels, so I thought there was a good chance he might not have been aware that The Enterprise War was tied into Discovery, rather than TOS.

I'm not sure that's a meaningful distinction. After all, any story where Pike is captain of the Enterprise is naturally going to be set before TOS proper, so the only points of overlap are the ship itself and Spock. So TEW ties into TOS as much as any other Pike novel does, just about. It just ties into DSC as well. It's not an either-or choice; most of the DSC novels to date have tied into TOS as well, since it's all one continuity.

Wait a second, Discovery is Kelvin timeline?

No, it's Prime timeline. It's set before the Kelvin Enterprise is even launched, and features a major Klingon war two years before Kelvin's Admiral Marcus says the Federation has only had a couple of minor skirmishes with the Klingons. Plus it has no involvement from Bad Robot and was created before CBS and Paramount re-merged, so it was meant to take place in the version of Trek that's exclusively from CBS (i.e. the Prime timeline) rather than the one co-produced with Paramount and Bad Robot (Kelvin).

 

[Greg Cox]

Wait a second, Discovery is Kelvin timeline?

No, no, a hundred times no.

 

[tomswift2002]

Wait a second, Discovery is Kelvin timeline?

I think a lot of people wish that it was or was part of another universe altogether, to explain away the continuity errors and different designs, but unfortunately it’s, according to the producers, set between The Cage & Where No Man Has Gone Before.

 

[Christopher]

I think a lot of people wish that it was or was part of another universe altogether, to explain away the continuity errors and different designs, but unfortunately it’s, according to the producers, set between The Cage & Where No Man Has Gone Before.

There were people who wanted TMP & TWOK to be in another universe to explain away the continuity changes. There were people who wanted TNG to be in another universe too. This is how Star Trek works. New versions change things, the fans scream bloody murder for a few years, then they get used to it and accept it as part of the whole and scream bloody murder about the next new version of Trek.

 

[valkyrie013]

Well if there is any pike series books can flesh out the crew.
But any book can now be set in his fists 5 year mission before klingon war..