Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 11, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - An honorable episode.

    12.5%
  2. 9

    23.8%
  3. 8

    32.7%
  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - The writers should commit seppuku.

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  1. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Screencaptioning Addict Premium Member

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    So the fighting nuns are more formidable than the Jem H'dar?

    Picard should have prefaced his description of them with "Don't tell my Klingon friends this, but..."
     
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  2. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    I'm going above the curve this week with a 10. Great adventure. Another great flashback. Holograms galore. Seven out of nowhere helping with the slice 'n' dice of that poor BoP.
     
  3. Saul

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    Best episode so far.

    Thoughts:

    Frakes makes good Trek.

    Rangers? is this Babylon 5?

    Picard paused his holodeck yet the fire in the fireplace is still burning.

    Why were 2 people beamed up when they were only expecting to beam up picard?

    Episode and characters are starting to feel a lot more natural now they are together. Stewart is excellent.

    Holographic crew is funny.

    Agreed. This is an adventure Picard is not coming back from so I imagine if this goes for 3 seasons it will be 3 seasons of Picard in space. Or either he dies at the end of this season
     
  4. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, Seven is half Viking. And Elnor is all elf. That's gotta show somehow.

    Seems to be how all holosimulations work as a default: Data's Sherlock Holmes fireplace kept burning, too.

    This OTOH isn't default. Generally you need to do a surprise hug.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  5. Discofan

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    Yeah, the famous transporter hug...
     
  6. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The implication that Dr. Jurati hasn't been to space before is quite absurd. Other cyberneticists outside the Federation would have invited her to conferences etc.

    In-universe, it must have been weird for the Romulans, especially the Senator, to have someone looking like their dead praetor Shinzon promise to save them.
     
  7. Jayson1

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    Trek has had beheadings before. Data lost his head several times including the main story in "TIme's Arrow" being built around it.

    Jason
     
  8. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Picard recognizing Seven right away means that she was VERY famous when Voyager got home from the Delta Quadrant or at least very famous within Starfleet circles. Being the most famous former Borg drone after Locutus must have had its benefits when wanting people to take notice of you.

    She might be even more famous than many of her former shipmates.
     
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  9. Discofan

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    Well, I am sure that word spread that he was a clone of Picard.
     
  10. Discofan

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    Yeah, sometimes the headworks alone, sometimes it doesn't. It's kinda like Shrodinger's cat, he's both dead and alive. Data's head is both active and inactive...
     
  11. ITDUDE

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    10/A+
    Old Picard is more like Younger Picard. And the way he was gave commands on bridge :D
    Excellent episode!
     
  12. Cap'n Calhoun

    Cap'n Calhoun Writer Red Shirt

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    Well, yes, technically. From that viewpoint there was one in the backstory to this series as well.

    [​IMG]

    Though I can't really say it feels like the same thing, at least not to me...
     
  13. Discofan

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    I wonder if there's a place with myriads of androids...
     
  14. DaveyNY

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    I'm thinking that one of the reasons (if not a main reason) Jean-Luc brought "The Three Musketeers" to young Elnor to read, is because of the numerous amount of very descriptive sword fights in it.
    He was teaching the kid how to do it from the start.
    ;)
     
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  15. oberth

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    really? that's probably the strangest and thusly most interesting story that kid has ever seen. until somebody shows me some romulan literature i shall hold the firm belief that it's awfully similar to the cardassian variant [​IMG]
     
  16. DaveyNY

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    Somebody asked back a few pages how I had determined that Dream-Data's Five Queen of Hearts was significant...
    I'd suggest going back and listening to Narek & "Lt. Rizzo's" conversation in the hallway.
    She very much demands that he find out from SOji where the Other's are hiding. and just how many there are.
    Again, we know there are at least Five from Dream-Data and his poker hand.
    The Writer's were practically telling us outright with that.
     
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  17. Bad Thoughts

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    Are you sure Picard wasn't afraid Elnor would wind up in one of Barclay's creepy holodeck programs?
     
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  18. Rao Van Tickle

    Rao Van Tickle Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    JFC. Is it that inconceivable to at least consider that the character's age might be a vital if not prime ingredient of the storyline?

    "An old man trying to use the little time he has to redeem himself." To all fans having an issue with Stewarts / Picards age, try using that as a startpoint. The actual storyline grows more and more rich and complex with each episode, but this point remains at the core.
     
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  19. Reverend

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    IIRC the main protagonist (aside from committing multiple murders with little consequence, beating a servant for complaining about not being paid and generally acting like a creepy entitled git) he also stalks at least two woman and commits sexual assault by pretending to be the husband of one of the aforementioned women (a deception achieved by coercing another woman with threats to her standing) then proceeds to get her into bed. All perfectly acceptable knavish behaviour for a man of means and standing in the early 1600's when it was set (and probably the mid 1800's when it was written too) but that's still a bloody far cry from the odd swooning "damsel in distress".
     
  20. DaveyNY

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    I get were you're trying to go with the joke, but it's a stretch.
    Not seeing any thing on Vashti that would indicate the denizens had access to that kind of technology.
    Especially since Jean-Luc actually brought a real book, not a Holo-rod.
    :shrug: