Discovery/Picard crossover

[Ralphis]

I'm wondering if there's any interest in a DSC/PIC crossover. I'm 50/50 on the idea. You definitely run the risk of being too fanwanky. But I still can't get my mind off the idea.

My thought is that maybe instead of going back to the mid-2250's, Georgiou ends up somewhere in the 2380's, takes over Section 31 and morphs it from the secretive organization we see in DS9 back into something similar to as seen on DSC. Maybe it's Georgiou's Section 31 that has been influencing Starfleet's darker, isolationist attitude in PIC? Section 31 could have a minor presence on PIC that springboards into the Section 31 TV show.

Like I said, I'm 50/50 on it. I know my idea stinks, but I couldn't help myself. I'm sure there are more creative ways to bring elements of the two shows together. I just think a Picard/Burnham team-up would be too much for some people.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It's only a matter of time until they do a Defenders-style crossover. Just wait until more of their new Treks are established.

 

[garakvsneelix]

While in my favourite scenario it is established, that DSC takes place in another timeline (I like the show, but some of its greatest problems would be solved with this decision), I could imagine some wonderful DSC/PIC-crossovers, too:

- The easiest way and the way I would prefer is to connect the PIC-storyline with some events in the past. So there could be a flashback to the 23rd century as an episode's opener (similiar to the beginning of "Maps and Legends".)
- Another way that I could imagine: After its stop in the distant future, the 'Discovery' ends up at the end of the 24th or the beginning of the 25th century - a mutual mission of Picard and Burnham inclusive. But in this case, the writers would have to come up with a VERY good idea.

I think, with the second idea, I'm just 'spinning around', but the first scenario is a) not tooo far away and b) maybe a good way to establish DSC as a real part of the original ST timeline.

 

[Racefuel]

While in my favourite scenario it is established, that DSC takes place in another timeline (I like the show, but some of its greatest problems would be solved with this decision), I could imagine some wonderful DSC/PIC-crossovers, too:

- The easiest way and the way I would prefer is to connect the PIC-storyline with some events in the past. So there could be a flashback to the 23rd century as an episode's opener (similiar to the beginning of "Maps and Legends".)
- Another way that I could imagine: After its stop in the distant future, the 'Discovery' ends up at the end of the 24th or the beginning of the 25th century - a mutual mission of Picard and Burnham inclusive. But in this case, the writers would have to come up with a VERY good idea.

I think, with the second idea, I'm just 'spinning around', but the first scenario is a) not tooo far away and b) maybe a good way to establish DSC as a real part of the original ST timeline.

Not to be rude...but Discovery takes place in the prime timeline..as evidenced by this capture from the latest Picard..jump to :30 in

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[Dukhat]

Not to be rude...but Discovery takes place in the prime timeline.

Yep, DSC takes place in the prime timeline along with TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, STP and all the films other than the Abrams ones. As a matter of fact, the only show that no longer seems to take place in the prime timeline is TOS.

 

[thribs]

Not to be rude...but Discovery takes place in the prime timeline..as evidenced by this capture from the latest Picard..jump to :30 in

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Ugh. Don’t remind me of that eyesore.
Rather have a Picard/JJVerse crossover.

 

[garakvsneelix]

Not to be rude...but Discovery takes place in the prime timeline..as evidenced by this capture from the latest Picard..jump to :30 in[/MEDIA]

Yeah, I see that the authors want us to believe it so, but in my opinion, it is not well established. There are too many things that I don't like about the idea, that DSC is really a part of the prime timeline (e. g. the holograms). Your 'proof'... well, there can be the same starship models in two timelines, I guess.

Yep, DSC takes place in the prime timeline along with TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, STP and all the films other than the Abrams ones. As a matter of fact, the only show that no longer seems to take place in the prime timeline is TOS.

So for DSC fitting in, the whole 'base' of the franchise must be put out? Not to be rude, but I'm not convinced

 

[The Habs Fan]

Yeah, I see that the authors want us to believe it so, but in my opinion, it is not well established. There are too many things that I don't like about the idea, that DSC is really a part of the prime timeline (e. g. the holograms). Your 'proof'... well, there can be the same starship models in two timelines, I guess.

DSC is in the prime timeline because the creators say so. It's as simple as that. Look at it as a visual reboot (like the Klingons in TOS vs. TNG) but the story is canon. They even went out of their way to make things like the holograms work with canon by the end of season 2.

 

[Ralphis]

I didn't intend for this to become yet another "What timeline is Discovery in?" thread when I wrote it. But since that's where we're at, and I'm procrastinating real world obligations right now by posting here...

I have always wished they set Discovery in its own timeline or quantum reality or whatever you want to call it. I like Discovery and personally never needed it to conform to the look and narrative canon of TOS to enjoy it. But I knew no matter what they did people were going to hate it just simply because it was bound to look more advance than TOS. My thought was that since the TNG episode "Parallels" established that there are literally an infinite number of quantum realities in Star Trek, Discovery could have simply been set in one of these other realities. At some point there would have had to have been some sort of crossover with the Prime Timeline to establish that it is indeed a different timeline. And what we did get in season 1 of DSC actually would have made this scenario very feasible since it dealt with alternate timeline anyway.

But I understand the real world reasons why they didn't do something like that. It's a business, and there's equity in the established Trek properties. Tossing those aside probably didn't make much sense.

 

[garakvsneelix]

DSC is in the prime timeline because the creators say so. It's as simple as that.

Yep, "but just saying so" isn't really convincing to me. I wish, they would do a lot more than "just saying so". One thing, that would help me to accept it as a part of the prime timeline would be to have a crossover with another show, I really see as a fitting part of the prime timeline. As far, "Picard" is such a show.

 

[Racefuel]

Yep, "but just saying so" isn't really convincing to me. I wish, they would do a lot more than "just saying so". One thing, that would help me to accept it as a part of the prime timeline would be to have a crossover with another show, I really see as a fitting part of the prime timeline. As far, "Picard" is such a show.

The hologram of the Enterprise in Picard is more or less a crossover.

Is that insufficient?

 

[garakvsneelix]

The hologram of the Enterprise in Picard is more or less a crossover.

Is that insufficient?

"More or less" are the right words. When the producers would announce a crossover between DSC and PIC, and in the crossover episode would be nothing than the hologram of the Enterprise... I think, some fans would be highly dissapointed, wouldn't they?

 

[Racefuel]

Having a genuine crossover without resorting to a trope like time travel would be quite difficult between Disc and Picard. At best all you'll get are visual or continuity references

 

[garakvsneelix]

Having a genuine crossover without resorting to a trope like time travel would be quite difficult between Disc and Picard.

Yes - and I'm really happy that time travel is a big deal in DSC

 

[Butters]

Yep, "but just saying so" isn't really convincing to me. I wish, they would do a lot more than "just saying so". One thing, that would help me to accept it as a part of the prime timeline would be to have a crossover with another show, I really see as a fitting part of the prime timeline. As far, "Picard" is such a show.

They did a ‘Previously. On Star Trek...’ Thing, and showed us Hunter and Nimoy as Pike and Spock. Discovery is a direct sequel to The Cage. It’s the same universe, the same continuity. They’ve done far more than just say so.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The only way I can see any kind of crossover is something like a Short Trek where Picard reminisces about an event that took place in the 23rd century but involving an ancestor of his.

I'm sure there were Picards in 2257, maybe one of them was in Starfleet.

(I'm not even thinking about DSC's time jump because I don't know what will eventually happen with that.)

 

[seigezunt]

I don't know if crossover is the correct term, but I do have a string suspicion there will be references shared between the two.

I've wondered if the impact of the sphere data ever comes up again in Picard's adventures, or perhaps something happens on Picard that ends up being discovered as part of (now) Discovery's past. I bet there may be some cross-pollination, though guest appearances probably won't be included.

 

[garakvsneelix]

They did a ‘Previously. On Star Trek...’ Thing, and showed us Hunter and Nimoy as Pike and Spock. Discovery is a direct sequel to The Cage. It’s the same universe, the same continuity. They’ve done far more than just say so.

Yep, that's a step in the right direction. And a crossover would be another - that's all I wanted to say. For the continuity struggles and fittings, there is another thread, I guess.

 

[BillJ]

It's only a matter of time until they do a Defenders-style crossover. Just wait until more of their new Treks are established.

They wait too long and Patrick Stewart may not be available to headline it.

They did a ‘Previously. On Star Trek...’ Thing, and showed us Hunter and Nimoy as Pike and Spock. Discovery is a direct sequel to The Cage. It’s the same universe, the same continuity. They’ve done far more than just say so.

It really isn't. They gave us a nostalgia cookie then turned around and gave us an Enterprise nothing like the one in "The Cage".

 

[Racefuel]

They gave us a nostalgia cookie then turned around and gave us an Enterprise nothing like the one in "The Cage".

They also had Jeffrey Hunter and Leonard Nimoy, are you upset that they weren't brought back too?