Spoilers The Good Place Season 4

[JirinPanthosa]

Just shows that TV needs to trick people into considering serious philosophical questions by drawing them in with laughs.

I also enjoyed that Jason ended up living like a monk for thousands of years for real. My favorite ending might be Tanahi's though.

Michael Schur has really figured out what the viewers want from a finale. So many shows are worried if they don't keep the threats and the all or nothing drama going until the very last second, the audience is going to lose interest. I was worried there'd be some double cross or something that they'd have to deal with to prevent everybody from going to the Bad Place again at the last minute and was so glad they didn't do that. Voyager would have benefitted from having one or two episodes after getting back to Earth instead of making it the last scene just so everything would be at stake until the very last second.

I think it would have been funny if some historical evil dictator showed up and had turned into a good guy. Or someone like Jack the Ripper. But the writers may have been squeamish about how fans would react if they addressed the question of whether Hitler gets in eventually.

 

[Awesome Possum]

In terms of finales, this was one of the best. I like finales that are really about giving the audience emotional closure with the characters. It’s some Mr Robot got right too. The last episode is about the main character getting to where he and the audience (who due to the nature of the show and main character are somewhat a part of the show) can move on. Both end on a beautiful note.

 

[JD]

Voyager would have benefitted from having one or two episodes after getting back to Earth instead of making it the last scene just so everything would be at stake until the very last second.

This is actually one of my biggest frustrations in the entire Trek franchise. I really would have liked to have gotten to see how the characters all reacted to being back home, and how the people they came home to reacted to how they had changed in the seven years they were gone.
I do know about Christie Golden's post finale books, but the overall reaction to them wasn't very good so I skipped over them right to Kirsten Bayer's books, which take place quite a while later.

 

[tomalak301]

What I loved was that Whenever took it’s entire time on screen to show us what the characters had learned from their journeys and how it played into their walk into eternity..Too many TV writers don’t take into account how much fans who have invested in a show’s characters, value seeing what happens to them after they’ve won that final battle.

My fav ending might have been Jason’s. I ragged on him earlier in Place’s run for being the only one dimensional character on the show. From the start of season 4 we see he has changed, and it all comes to a head when he becomes the first of the group to realize that his purpose in life had been fulfilled, but in the most “Jason” way possible; by finishing a video game. He remained in character throughout.

This is so beautifully stated. There are many finales where I feel like the closure for the characters could be better or some characters were shortchanged for others, but The Good Place allowed for everyone we followed for these four years to have their moment to shine. The entirety of the show was summed up in this episode and honestly it was beautiful. I think listening to the last Good Place Podcast just added to the beauty this episode really was. This really was the first time in a really long time I felt “satisfied” with a show conclusion and I’m so glad it was The Good Place. This show was weird, crazy, and really really special. I don’t think there will be another show like it for a long time.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I never thought Kierkegaard could be rapped, but I've now been proven wrong:

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[Tallguy]

That was nearly perfect.

Did anyone notice that Michael "invented" purgatory?

I was OK until Mary showed up to teach Ted how to play guitar. Then the room got very dusty.

Kudos to Marc Evan Jackson. His expression after "Never never never..." was adorable.

People said last week that it was a good ending to the show. This episode passed it up by a good long way. I feel totally OK. I think it left me in a good place.

 

[EnderAKH]

I never thought I would feel so good about all the heroes dying at the end of a series I love.

 

[JD]

I wonder exactly how much time the show covered from start to finish from the characters' perspective. There seemed to be some pretty significant time jumps in the last couple episodes.

 

[Tallguy]

I wonder exactly how much time the show covered from start to finish from the characters' perspective. There seemed to be some pretty significant time jumps in the last couple episodes.

A lot of Bearimys.

 

[JD]

Yeah, of course, but the characters did seem to still experience time the same way they did when they were alive, and I believe there was a reference to something happening over the course 800 years at one point.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

A very lovely Rolling Stone interview with Kristen Bell where she talked about her reactions to the finale, finishing up the series, and what she's up to now (short answer: her kids).

 

[gblews]

I wonder exactly how much time the show covered from start to finish from the characters' perspective. There seemed to be some pretty significant time jumps in the last couple episodes.

I was wondering this same thing. Didn’t Janet tell Jason when she came back to the door, that it had been a thousand bearimys since she had left him there? And;some additional time went by after that. Wish we had a better idea of how long bearimys are.

 

[Tallguy]

A Bearimy is 1094.7 Groundhog Days. I may be rounding.

 

[gblews]

A very lovely Rolling Stone interview with Kristen Bell where she talked about her reactions to the finale, finishing up the series, and what she's up to now (short answer: her interesting kids).

Interesting that the actors were all wrapped at different days, so saying good bye was a multi part thing for them. That has to be hard. I didn’t notice the thing the article mentioned about Eleanor’s essence after she walked through the door. I’m going to rewatch tonight.

A Bearimy is 1094.7 Groundhog Days. I may be rounding.

Was this mentioned in the show?

 

[gblews]

Watched the finale again. Yeah, I completely missed the part at the end where Eleanor’s essence went to earth and nudged Michael’s neighbor into retrieving the letter from the trash and handing it to Michael. The interesting thing was how happy that little nothing card made Michael. I just wonder if Michael’s use of one of Eleanor’s catch phrase meant he knew that she was somehow involved.

And Janet did say that it had been 1,000 bearimys since she left Jason at the door. If one bearimy is 1,094 days, that meant Jason waited the equivalent of about 3,000 years, at least by my admittedly shakey grasp of math. That is kind of a mind blower.

 

[bigdaddy]

What's her name in the middle place said that she rebooted what's his name Janet's ex (I'm awful with names) 100,000 times. Even if it was 20 times a day, that's still 5,000 years.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Mindy and Derek. And yeah, that's a lot of times. But, also, she was easily bored.

 

[JD]

I loved the super evolved Derek.
There was an interview I read where they addressed the last scene, and the idea behind it is that after people walk through the door parts of the soul or essence or whatever, return to Earth and influence living people to be better.

 

[Mojochi]

I'm kind of confused as to why it appeared Michael didn't get given a complete human life, birth to death, or if he was starting from scratch with a wiped memory, or did he retain his previous knowledge. Were we only seeing the parts of Michael's life where he looked like geriatric Ted Danson?

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I'm kind of confused as to why it appeared Michael didn't get given a complete human life, birth to death, or if he was starting from scratch with a wiped memory, or did he retain his previous knowledge. Were we only seeing the parts of Michael's life where he looked like geriatric Ted Danson?

They said he'd start that way. He wasn't born to a human family or anything.