Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Reverend]

I think there's life in the E-E still. No need to mothball her just yet. Besides, it'd be fun to see a familiar face in command now that both Picard and Riker appear to be retired. "Captain Worf" has a certain ring to it, no?

And yeah, personally I'm not a fan of the E-F's design. No real personality of it's own. Looks more like a slightly less practical Voyager knock-off to my eyes.

 

[137th Gebirg]

The E-F is not an egregiously bad design, but it suffers a bit from Oberthitis. The missing central connecting dorsal neck always bothers me - subjective personal preference, of course - but at least this ship is big enough to handle it, as opposed to the spindly-thin pylons on the Oberth that barely fit a Jefferies Tube without being dimensionally transcendental..

 

[Reverend]

Just from a purely aesthetic standpoint, the split neck approach just looks weird on a larger ship. At least on the Oberth it had some sense of grace to it, and functionally made sense if the initial intent was that the secondary hull was an uninhabited pod loaded with sensing equipment; not unlike the Nebula's dorsal pod.

 

[Tuskin38]

The intakes on the Romulan ship are very reminiscent of the Valdore from Nemesis.
The Valdore herself might have a window or something on the 'head', like that ship. I honestly didn't notice until I saw it on the STO model, so I had to go back and check the Nemesis movie model.

Might be a window, might be a pitch black deflector/sensor array, who knows.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ What are those from? I am genuinely curious.

 

[Tuskin38]

^^^ What are those from? I am genuinely curious.

Ex Astris
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/romulans1.htm
Their source is John Eaves's old blog

 

[cooleddie74]

NEM had its issues but the Romulan ships weren't among them.

 

[ITDUDE]

I don’t want -E or -F
Raise the saucer of -D and fix her up. I want to see it in action again

 

[Reverend]

Pretty sure that thing is long gone. I mean for one thing the next planet over had a pre-spaceflight civilization on it IIRC so they'd have needed to break down the hull and salvage *everything* in case they eventually make the trip over.

 

[Markonian]

Countdown 3 is out and it includes another STO design!

The Tal Shiar warbird appearing in the story is a Faeht-class intel warbird, Alpha configuration.
Class info: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Faeht_Intel_Warbird

Fitting for an intelligence organisation to use this ship.

 

[Datasbeard]

Countdown 3 is out and it includes another STO design!

The Tal Shiar warbird appearing in the story is a Faeht-class intel warbird, Alpha configuration.
Class info: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Faeht_Intel_Warbird

Fitting for an intelligence organisation to use this ship.

Looking forward to reading this. I worry, though, that these Countdown comics have as much to do with STP as the original ones had to do with ST09. They weave a plausible background story, but it will be largely ignored and/or rewritten, as convenient. I really don’t expect to see any STO designs on STP, for example.

 

[Tuskin38]

Countdown 3 is out and it includes another STO design!

The Tal Shiar warbird appearing in the story is a Faeht-class intel warbird, Alpha configuration.
Class info: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Faeht_Intel_Warbird

Fitting for an intelligence organisation to use this ship.

I’m glad they used the alpha configuration, that one is my favourite

 

[Dukhat]

Pretty sure that thing is long gone. I mean for one thing the next planet over had a pre-spaceflight civilization on it IIRC so they'd have needed to break down the hull and salvage *everything* in case they eventually make the trip over.

I don’t think that would be necessary. They could just use a tractor beam to lift the saucer off the planet. I’d like to think that the saucer is now in the Starfleet museum.

 

[Reverend]

I don’t think that would be necessary. They could just use a tractor beam to lift the saucer off the planet. I’d like to think that the saucer is now in the Starfleet museum.

Picard literally said in the closing scene of ST:G that the ship "cannot be salvaged"; and not surprising given the damage it probably took on impact. Also remember that those things aren't meant to be able to support their own weight without an active SIF, much less inside a gravity well. It wouldn't have remained structurally sound for long, much less stayed in one piece if they tried to raise it.

So removing it intact is off the table, which leaves cutting it up and removing it a piece at a time. Most of the components that were salvaged probably went into the Galaxys that were rushed into production during the Dominion War. Nothing left for the fleet museum but the odd artefact. At most they might have kept the bridge module intact.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Looking forward to reading this. I worry, though, that these Countdown comics have as much to do with STP as the original ones had to do with ST09. They weave a plausible background story, but it will be largely ignored and/or rewritten, as convenient. I really don’t expect to see any STO designs on STP, for example.

That's pretty much how all tie-in fiction works

 

[Tomalak]

Remember that Disco novel that featured Pike and Spock on the Enterprise? Apparently it originated from an idea by Bryan Fuller, and is now totally incompatible with what we saw in season two.

Or Jeri Taylor's Voyager books which were promptly ignored as soon as she left the show?

The Countdown comic is written by Kirsten Beyer, so it's probably compatible with what we'll see in season one of Picard. That doesn't mean it won't be overwritten in season two or three. That's how these things work.

 

[Dukhat]

Picard literally said in the closing scene of ST:G that the ship "cannot be salvaged"; and not surprising given the damage it probably took on impact. Also remember that those things aren't meant to be able to support their own weight without an active SIF, much less inside a gravity well. It wouldn't have remained structurally sound for long, much less stayed in one piece if they tried to raise it.

So removing it intact is off the table, which leaves cutting it up and removing it a piece at a time. Most of the components that were salvaged probably went into the Galaxys that were rushed into production during the Dominion War. Nothing left for the fleet museum but the odd artefact. At most they might have kept the bridge module intact.

This is all make-believe, remember? If they wanted the saucer intact off the planet, they’d find some science-fictiony way to do it.

 

[BillJ]

Looking forward to reading this. I worry, though, that these Countdown comics have as much to do with STP as the original ones had to do with ST09. They weave a plausible background story, but it will be largely ignored and/or rewritten, as convenient. I really don’t expect to see any STO designs on STP, for example.

Read it or don't. But the whole idea should be "is the story enjoyable?" I haven't picked up the third part yet, but found the first two parts fairly enjoyable. The changes made since 2009 haven't decreased my enjoyment of Star Trek: Countdown.

 

[The Keller Machine]

Picard literally said in the closing scene of ST:G that the ship "cannot be salvaged"; and not surprising given the damage it probably took on impact. Also remember that those things aren't meant to be able to support their own weight without an active SIF, much less inside a gravity well. It wouldn't have remained structurally sound for long, much less stayed in one piece if they tried to raise it.

So removing it intact is off the table, which leaves cutting it up and removing it a piece at a time. Most of the components that were salvaged probably went into the Galaxys that were rushed into production during the Dominion War. Nothing left for the fleet museum but the odd artefact. At most they might have kept the bridge module intact.

If I remember rightly, I think that's exactly what they did in one of the novels - sliced it up and removed bit by bit (The Return maybe).

 

[fireproof78]

Looking forward to reading this. I worry, though, that these Countdown comics have as much to do with STP as the original ones had to do with ST09. They weave a plausible background story, but it will be largely ignored and/or rewritten, as convenient. I really don’t expect to see any STO designs on STP, for example.

Then why worry about it?