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Almost every alien we've ever seen speaks with an american accent (apart from those in Farscape who are all Aussies)
 
Uh, wrong. They don’t wear powdered wigs and pantaloons on This is Us. Establish setting.
They've established the setting - that you don't like it really doesn't interfere with that. Does the civilian wear seen in, say, star trek III, IV or V really scream 'hundreds of years into the future'? You could get away with almost all of it on the streets of San Francisco today. As indeed they do in the movie. In the early years of TNG, some civilian humans certainly went through a phase for pastel coloured jumpsuits, but fashions change. It's over thirty years since TNG began at this point in universe, got no issue with the fashions having changed, and for that change to be cyclic and retro as it often is today. At a certain point, there is only so much you can do with a jumper. And from a storytelling perspective, people wearing bizarre 'futuristic' costumes just draws too much attention away from what is meant to be focused on, which is exactly why characters like Jake Sisko moved on from that faux futuristic spacewear once his role expanded.
 
You were apologizing for human reproduction being innately superior other forms you find more complicated.
I did not say that at all. There is no need to put words in my mouth.
Uh, wrong. They don’t wear powdered wigs and pantaloons on This is Us. Establish setting.
Fashion trends come and go. Most futurism predictions of fashion rarely come true.
No it didn’t, quit using that as an excuse. If anything a war should have caused more change.
Earth wasn't attacked during the Dominion War? Huh, weird...

I don't know why that would make more changes.
That’s a common excuse, but these are artists bringing you not a random and unrepresentative environment but presenting for you a chosen and manipulated one to represent something. Just that their something isn’t much of something. You may not “fuss” about it, but I do lament a missed opportunity to inspire.
By all means, lament. But I see no need to have there in the story if it isn't relevant to the story. This isn't a story about future Earth to inspire the masses. It is a story about Picard and his own personal struggles.

If it were a story about future Earth and that's what I saw then I would lament it. But, it's not. Nor is Trek tech meant to inspire. It is stories about humanity and not their fashion or technology. Those are just tools.
 
Earth wasn't attacked during the Dominion War? Huh, weird...

A drive by shooting of starfleet headquarters is hardly being attacked in the same way Betazed was

They did go through a torturous decade though - the borg scare after wolf 359, the Antwerp conference and Leyton takeover, the second borg scare, the attack on san francisco, the return of Janeway.
 
A drive by shooting of starfleet headquarters is hardly being attacked in the same way Betazed was

They did go through a torturous decade though - the borg scare after wolf 359, the Antwerp conference and Leyton takeover, the second borg scare, the attack on san francisco, the return of Janeway.
Fair point.
 
Americans do not sound human?

I guess I should say with a easy to identify accent. While you might have had American actors many times you could never tell if the actor was from Boston or the Texas or anything really that specific. It was kind of generic accent most of the time or at least it felt like it to me. British might have been the one exception but the English accent tends to carry lots of gravitas when used in Trek. Having a Romulan not only with a British accent but also Hipster beard made for a very non-alien feeling Romulan.

Jason
 
We've gotten little snippets of interesting futurism in the past.

On Earth? When? Seems like outside some weird fashion, you could probably walk the streets of your hometown and not get lost in the 22nd to 25th century. I seriously can't keep track of how many times they've shown us the Golden Gate bridge and the Eiffel Tower.
 
I still think the Kelvinverse has the best depiction of earth. It felt both futuristic but also with modern touches but modern touches the tv shows never really did. The bars still felt like bars for example and the police officer has the speeder bike and face helmet but he is still a cop in the same way we have cops here today and not just a security officer like we see on the tv shows.


Jason
 
To me the easy fix is to avoid modern slang and enough with the emo beards. Also not sure about British and Italian sounding Romulans. It seems to me aliens should at least sound a little less human than they do.

But you're OK with a Frenchman speaking with a British accent.

Almost every alien we've ever seen speaks with an american accent (apart from those in Farscape who are all Aussies)

Lots of Vulcans have had British accents. Oh, and Kor had a Canadian accent!
 
I guess I should say with a easy to identify accent. While you might have had American actors many times you could never tell if the actor was from Boston or the Texas or anything really that specific. It was kind of generic accent most of the time or at least it felt like it to me. British might have been the one exception but the English accent tends to carry lots of gravitas when used in Trek. Having a Romulan not only with a British accent but also Hipster beard made for a very non-alien feeling Romulan.

Jason
Yeah, this is just a bizarre America-centric complaint. It is not like the British accent being used was particulry region specific. This is just not understanding that American accent is not some 'neutral default'. Like the endless inane complaints about Picard's British accent when countless exampless of non-native speakers having perfect American accents go unnoticed.
 
They've established the setting - that you don't like it really doesn't interfere with that.

They’ve established it badly, and that you do like it doesn’t pardon that.

Does the civilian wear seen in, say, star trek III, IV or V really scream 'hundreds of years into the future'?

Is it made from nanofibers, washes itself and its wearer, and responds to voice commands? No. But is it in the style that most people wear today? Also, No.

got no issue with the fashions having changed, and for that change to be cyclic and retro as it often is today.

That’s the excuse used for anything in science fiction the creators dropped the ball on employed by fans trying to rationalize it. Something fans excel at — see half the discussions on this BB. They didn’t make an artistic decision to talk about the cyclical nature of anything. They just didn’t tackle the futurism. Probably for budgetary reasons (most forgivable excuse but I’m not buying it), marketing reasons (appealing to non-Trek audiences...by not doing Trek), or artistic reasons (they’re uninterested in or incapable of presenting the future).

And from a storytelling perspective, people wearing bizarre 'futuristic' costumes just draws too much attention away from what is meant to be focused on

Already touched on this a reply or two up. The lack of “bizarre futuristic costumes” can draw away as much attention given that it’s set in the distant future. And a future with Trekkies who know it and are looking forward to it.
 
Yeah, this is just a bizarre America-centric complaint. It is not like the British accent being used was particulry region specific. This is just not understanding that American accent is not some 'neutral default'. Like the endless inane complaints about Picard's British accent when countless exampless of non-native speakers having perfect American accents go unnoticed.


Maybe but I can't tell most American accents apart. I mean I can hear Southern,OKlahoma,Texas though they sort of can blend together as well. New Yorker but basically only if someone is yelling and acting rude and Boston if someone is yelling and acting rude or talking about the Red Sox. Maybe Minnesota but maybe not Minnesota and I have just seen to many episodes of Fargo. Also Valley girl but since this isn't 1984 anymore that doesn't do me any good.


Jason
 
I still say the British invaded France in WWIII which is why Picard has a British accent. Still not sure why Worf doesn't have a Russian one though.

Jason
Or they just learned to speak the language at native level like countless people already do today, even without evolved 24th century learning techniques.
 
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