And PIC says that Picard was one of Starfleet's top military strategists.
Consistency went out the window a long time ago.
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And PIC says that Picard was one of Starfleet's top military strategists.
Consistency went out the window a long time ago.
Since it's said to be a utopia, surely there's no poverty, currency - or poop or pee. Mankind doesn't succumb to bathroom breaks as they have a more evolved sensibility than what we today can appreciate. (to loosely quote Jean-Luc's speech to Lily in FC)
Federation Credits. They're used to interact with primitive societies that are still using money. It is quite likely that they were not her personal credits, but those of Enterprise's expense account. These non-Federation people can then exchange these Credits to Federation replicated goods in any Federation facility. These credits are basically worthless to Federation citizens, as everything is free for them. I hope this answers your question.
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Of course it is. It would utterly bizarre to have some sort of gender separation based on outdated Earth customs. I'm sure many aliens do not even have same genders than humans.
Clearly they beam it out.Since it's said to be a utopia, surely there's no poverty, currency - or poop or pee. Mankind doesn't succumb to bathroom breaks as they have a more evolved sensibility than what we today can appreciate. (to loosely quote Jean-Luc's speech to Lily in FC)
How does that vendor 'exchange' those credits, since the planet Farpoint Station is on, was not yet a part of the Federation and waay the hell out on the edge of the Federation territory?
(the Enterprise-D was sent there to evaluate the possibility of the planets people for admission)
And Credit's by any other name is still MONEY, when used in exchange for goods or services.
(at least that is what the dictionary tells me)
Plus, somehow I can't imagine that Star Fleet would let any of it's members just help themselves to a pot of credits for their own personal use.
Beverly bought the bolt of fabric for herself and I believe she did say (paraphrasing)
"...charge it to my personal account...".)
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Now usually any area where Federation Credits would be used is likely be near Federation and already have some Federation presence. Now in this particular instance this was not the case. The Trader could have their goods replicated by the Enterprise though.
Yes, absolutely. But the point is that they're used with other cultures, not internally. These credits are not something Federation citizens collect and use in their normal lives.
Why? What does it matter whether Crusher uses a meagre amount of Enterprise's energy to replicate herself stuff, or whether the same energy is used to replicate something for a third party in her behest?
'Send it to our starship, charge to Dr. Crusher.' Even if it was an expense account for whole ship, they still might want to know who ordered the payment. Though of course each person can have their personal account for such matters.
An this sort of nitpicking is pointless. Picard says there's no money, Kirk says there's no money, Jake Sisko says there's no money, Tom Paris says there's no money. So it is pretty damn clear that there's no money!
That's not a definition of money.
Yes, I didn't complete my thought (sentence) there before posting.
my bad
Might as well have been colored beads.
No. That's a cop out. Physical money barely exists even now, electronic currency wouldn't been anyway noteworthy, we have had that for a long time. Picard says that accumulation of wealth is no longer relevant. And even though that DS9 episode about Jake trying to acquire a baseball card is deeply dumb, it makes it pretty damn clear that 'no money' doesn't just mean 'no cash.'
Well, you interpret your way and I'll do it mine.
It's obvious to me that many episodes have shown the use of some form of currency, whether or not it has lost its necessity on Earth is not the debate.
It does still exist in some form throughout the Federation.
No, not really.
He says it's no longer a "driving" force in day-to-day life. He doesn't say it's not ANY force, just that it's not essential. Not part of the struggle for survival.
People can still USE money without actively NEEDING it.
Sisko once mentioned that, during his Academy years, he routinely used up all of his "transporter credits" due to his habit of always beaming back home to have dinner with his family every evening.
Of course we don't know if there's any connection, but...there might be.
I guess "credits" can mean whatever the writer wants them to.
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It's something akin to a comic book having different artists.
Two versions of the same character, yet they both exist within the same universe.
Going back to the OP, "everyday life on Earth" seemed too generic sci-fi to me in this incarnation of Trek. Daj's apartment might have been something from a Sci-Fi Channel show from the 90's. Or barely something out of Black Mirror. I already started a thread lamenting some of this previously, but, yeah, for all the reasons to adore PIC, the futurism isn't really one of them.
EDIT: just found an old thread I started some years back about Earth in the 24th Century -- some good links therein for anyone interested.
EDIT: just found an old thread I started some years back about Earth in the 24th Century -- some good links therein for anyone interested.
Up until now, life on Earth has never been a priority for STAR Trek.
That was on purpose.
Pretty much all the aliens we've seen in Star Trek are binary gendered. Even when the novels established the Andorians had four genders, they still made it binary in that two of the genders are masculine and two are feminine. The one exception is the race from The Outcast, and everyone there reacted as though they were something truly unique.
Star Trek really isn't that imaginative with its aliens.
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