Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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  1. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    Maybe so, but most good shows don't need such obviouly written fan surrogates there on the screen to prop up their heroes.
     
  2. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    well, you don't turn 97 over night.
    (unless, of course, you're 96 on the evening before your birthday)
     
  3. Alan Roi

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    Especially since they are very much starting from similar points.
     
  4. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Section 31 is nothing like the CIA. Or the SIS or Mossad. That's the problem.
     
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  5. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    I didn't see them as fan surrogates. I saw them as characters there to help Picard navigate his daily life. It seems he's written a lot of books on history, and if that was his "career", then he would need people to tend to the vineyard.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    Q. Why do the Goblins have Big Ears?

    A. Noddy won't pay the ransom.
     
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  7. jaime

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    They were his family, ersatz Riker and Troi, Crusher even, people he had saved that tied into the overall story, formed a bit of a callback to his relationship with Spock, even a slight callback to when he was The Picard to the Mintakans. With their position on his vineyard, you could even stretch them to being a representation of Federation Colonialism, but he treats them as equals.

    Plus, I think he’s got something going on with Lady Romulan. She fixed his collar. That’s the Wifey Manuver.
     
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  9. jaime

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    Yeh, I found myself thinking ‘huh..brother in law maybe?’ Because there’s a strong vibe.
     
  10. Alan Roi

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    Yeah, it kind of is. At least where Star Trek is concerned.
     
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  11. BillJ

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    At the very least, they've shown me today that they are capable of making good Star Trek. It brightens my feelings towards Discovery season three.
     
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  12. Alan Roi

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    Not sure how that's possible since its nothing like what came before. IMO, its an entirely new form.
     
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  13. Lynn Minmay

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    Looks like I’ll be watching it a third time tonight.

    How many times have y’all rewatched?
     
  14. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    Good, so we all agree. S31, as written, is unbelievable and silly as a CIA stand in
     
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  15. JanewayRulz!

    JanewayRulz! Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I saw it.

    Even though I have lots of questions I still loved it.

    Can't wait for next week.
     
  16. DaveyNY

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    .. or perhaps a live-in housekeeper who cares deeply about her employer who literally saved her life.
     
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  17. Alan Roi

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    The notable thing is they don't treat him as their equal. Like fans, they appear to feel entirely indebted to him. And that's probably warranted, but it is what it is when viewed from this side of the screen.
     
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    Well, it's supposed to represent the worst qualities of those organizations.
     
  19. DaveyNY

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    Yes, they revere him for who he is and have a deep respect for his way of living in treating all people as equals.
     
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  20. BillJ

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    I'm not so sure. This will be about doing the "right" thing along with some action-adventure and moralizing. The format may be a bit different, but it still felt like TNG in spirit to me.
     
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