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Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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Okay, Trump. :rolleyes:
Didn't vote for Trump. Hate Trump. Stop painting everyone with the same brush.

If we don't keep the media accountable, who will? They're being sued all the time for a reason. They're worse now than they were 20 years ago. And there's no excuse for it because they have more resources than EVER in history to get the story right. But they still don't. Cherry-pick, omit details, push, bury the lead.

Personally I blame the internet, social media, and the rise of the internet media as a whole for diluting journalism. One can be distrustful of the media without being a Trump supporter. That you can't see that is a pretty sad indictment of how easily you judge people.
 
Depends on if the attack was actually aimed at killing people or not. Based on those numbers, likely casualties wasn't the main goal of the attack.

Agreed. Plus, the reporter says the rescue armada was wiped out, and Utopia Planetia destroyed, which makes it seem that that was the actual target. The 92,000 may just have been the people who worked at Utopia Planetia, in orbit and on the surface. The large planetary explosions may just have been construction facilities of various kinds, not centers of population.
 
If we don't keep the media accountable, who will? They're being sued all the time for a reason. They're worse now than they were 20 years ago.

Probably not the right forum for this, but…you say these things as if they are facts, and that's part of the problem in this post-truth world we live in. People spout things without citing sources, having seen them on Facebook or TV and accepted them as given without critical thinking. I don't think people called you Trump because they thought you voted for him or were a fan. Rather, it's because you talk like him. You can say anything you want, including, "The media is worse now than they were 20 years ago," sure. But if you don't even try to substantiate claims like that then don't expect anyone to go along with you.
 
I thought it was great. I wanted more. I can tell they worked hard at making something for long time TNG fans. I hope they do not continue to do dream sequences in future episodes though.
 
Probably not the right forum for this, but…you say these things as if they are facts, and that's part of the problem in this post-truth world we live in. People spout things without citing sources, having seen them on Facebook or TV and accepted them as given without critical thinking. I don't think people called you Trump because they thought you voted for him or were a fan. Rather, it's because you talk like him. You can say anything you want, including, "The media is worse now than they were 20 years ago," sure. But if you don't even try to substantiate claims like that then don't expect anyone to go along with you.
I don't expect anyone to go along with me. I stated an opinion and refuted the implication that I support Trump.

Reading comprehension and not jumping to conclusions are useful skills to have in life.
 
Okay, Trump. :rolleyes:
Pump those breaks a little @Crewman6

I don't expect anyone to go along with me. I stated an opinion and refuted the implication that I support Trump.

Reading comprehension and not jumping to conclusions are useful skills to have in life.

Any real world politics should be taken to TNZ.......this is NOT the place for it. So let's not continue it here. Mmmmmm kay?
 
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Agreed. Plus, the reporter says the rescue armada was wiped out, and Utopia Planetia destroyed, which makes it seem that that was the actual target. The 92,000 may just have been the people who worked at Utopia Planetia, in orbit and on the surface. The large planetary explosions may just have been construction facilities of various kinds, not centers of population.

On first watch I took that as "they destroyed Utopia Planitia and the rescue armada"--as if the armada was on its way but also destroyed.

On second watch I now assume that the rescue armada was under construction at Utopia Planitia and since the synths attacked there (and Mars) the armada was destroyed.

Whether the synth attack and the armada are linked, I don't know. Maybe they obviously are?
 
That's what I was addressing, though. We have no idea how many people live on Romulus. We assume it's comparable to Earth, but there's really no reason for it. It could be that Romulus is 90% water, and that Remus is so polluted it's largely uninhabited. Then it very well could be that only some 900 million live on the two worlds combined.

Well, I would not be a true Star Trek fan if I failed to point out that according to the Star Trek Star Chart factbook, Romulus has a population of 18 billion in 2368. ;)

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I appreciated the more traditional camera work.

I watched a review recently that made the point Discovery often uses weird camera angles for seemingly no purpose. Like, there's a scene of two people talking in a corridor, and instead of just framing them, or following them down the hall, the shot will start up near the ceiling and then do a 180-degree pan. As if they're so scared that a static shot is going to bore us they have to make the camera active.

Picard has the confidence to not do this.
 
On first watch I took that as "they destroyed Utopia Planitia and the rescue armada"--as if the armada was on its way but also destroyed.

On second watch I now assume that the rescue armada was under construction at Utopia Planitia and since the synths attacked there (and Mars) the armada was destroyed.

Whether the synth attack and the armada are linked, I don't know. Maybe they obviously are?
I'm just hoping Geordi survived since he is commanding the shipyards in the comics........
 
Apparently when its the Picard show, no one notices the 360 crane shots enough to complain it makes them feel dizzy like they do almost every episode of Discovery whether there is one or not.

I've seen it once, at 7AM this morning. But then, I never complained about the camera work on Discovery or the Abrams films. I just appreciate that this feels more traditional. It gives it a different feel from Discovery.
 
Well, I would not be a true Star Trek fan if I failed to point out that according to the Star Trek Star Chart factbook, Romulus has a population of 18 billion in 2368. ;)

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It would be unfair to expect the Federation to save them all. Even building thousands of ships, they were going to run out of time.
 
I watched a review recently that made the point Discovery often uses weird camera angles for seemingly no purpose. Like, there's a scene of two people talking in a corridor, and instead of just framing them, or following them down the hall, the shot will start up near the ceiling and then do a 180-degree pan. As if they're so scared that a static shot is going to bore us they have to make the camera active.

Picard has the confidence to not do this.

In one of the Discovery Season 2 commentaries the director mentions that no two shots would be alike, and staged as such. A deliberate choice to keep things fresh.
 
I watched a review recently that made the point Discovery often uses weird camera angles for seemingly no purpose. Like, there's a scene of two people talking in a corridor, and instead of just framing them, or following them down the hall, the shot will start up near the ceiling and then do a 180-degree pan. As if they're so scared that a static shot is going to bore us they have to make the camera active.

Picard has the confidence to not do this.

i don't have a problem with Disco's cinematography reminding viewers they are watching a show set in space and not in a hotel on earth as being a problem, but then I found the cinematography of the Berman era to be pretty boring even at the time.
 
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