Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

[Verteron]

Apparently Picard has picked up some French now. He's no longer the most British Frenchman in TV history.

Clearly, a high proportion of the French population died in WW3 and France was repopulated by well-meaning Yorkshiremen who are doing their best French impression.

 

[picardjean-luc]

Given the review embargo, I'm really surprised that Cirroc Lofton has put his name to this, just now.

Cirroc & Co did say their review is a 'non-spoiler' review and they spent their time discussing their impressions about the first three episodes of 'Picard' and how do they think it compares to TNG and other pre-2000 Trek series.

 

[BillJ]

Thankfully, I was never THAT bad!

And yes. Some people are excellent at this, others aren't. Sir Patrick is doing his best, and, at least to ME, normally "Chief Nitpicker When It Comes To Jean-Luc Picard", it's alright. I give Sir Patrick quite a bit of leeway because I know he loves Jean-Luc (almost) as much as I do.

He loved the character so much that he said he would never play him again after Nemesis. But, then CBS drove a dump truck full of money up to his house.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

He loved the character so much that he said he would never play him again after Nemesis. But, then CBS drove a dump truck full of money up to his house.

He doesn't need the money. He has enough of that.

He's doing this because he thinks he has a story to tell. (I'm not saying he's not taking the money. We all would. And why not?) If he felt that there was no story, he would have done the same thing he has been doing for many, many years whenever someone approached his house with a truckload of money and said "play Picard again, please": He would have said "No, thanks."

 

[BillJ]

He doesn't need the money. He has enough of that.

He's doing this because he thinks he has a story to tell. (I'm not saying he's not taking the money. We all would. And why not?) If he felt that there was no story, he would have done the same thing he has been doing for many, many years whenever someone approached his house with a truckload of money and said "play Picard again, please": He would have said "No, thanks."

I'm sure that $20 million dollar salary didn't hurt matters when attempting to lure him back.

 

[XCV330]

Jesus. They’ll complain about anything, won’t they? Some people really will not be happy until they have their static camera 80/90s Trek back.

Star Trek fans are the Karen of the entertainment industry. Forums are their "I'd like to speak to your manager".

You can't make them happy. They don't want to be happy. They want to transfer the inconsistencies and nitpicks of their lives to something they have even less control over: the universe in their head that does not jive with its latest interpretation on screen. They count windows and welds on cgi models. They study zippers on uniforms. They worry about fictitious stardates and throw fits when a show filmed in 2020 doesn't look like a show filmed in 1960. Fandom fights for its place as a religion replacement for people who not only need something to believe in but something to fight over, the vacuum in the ghost in the machine. So complaining over camera work is almost required.

Because, of course if THEY filmed it..

 

[Alexander Corrino]

I'm sure that $20 million dollar salary didn't hurt matters when attempting to lure him back.

So you have access to his finances now? Doesn't matter tho, even if they paid him 200 million dollars, it would still be none of anyone's business but his (and CBS'). And I'm sure previous offers weren't cheap either. And yet he still said no.

It's funny, almost. If he doesn't play Picard again, people complain "he doesn't care, he's too good for Star Trek now, huh" and if he DOES play him again it's "what's he doing here, he doesn't care, he's only doing it for the money". Can't win, no matter what.

Star Trek fans are the Karen of the entertainment industry. Forums are their "I'd like to speak to your manager".

THIS. Because it kinda fits to what I was just about to type. lol

 

[BillJ]

It's funny, almost. If he doesn't play Picard again, people complain "he doesn't care, he's too good for Star Trek now, huh" and if he DOES play him again it's "what's he doing here, he doesn't care, he's only doing it for the money". Can't win, no matter what.

I said neither of those things. I simply noted that the money didn't hurt the cause.

 

[Mudd]

It's all about the Benjamins.*


*Not Sisko.

 

[BillJ]

I like Patrick Stewart. But the man is no more a saint than I am.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

I like Patrick Stewart. But the man is no more a saint than I am.

He isn't, and whichever amount they paid will be gladly accepted (and I said as much, too). I simply meant that money alone is/was not enough to persuade him to come back, no matter the amount.

 

[BillJ]

He isn't, and whichever amount they paid will be gladly accepted (and I said as much, too). I simply meant that money alone is/was not enough to persuade him to come back, no matter the amount.

I didn't say it was the sole reason he came back, I said it didn't hurt matters...

I'm sure that $20 million dollar salary didn't hurt matters when attempting to lure him back.

 

[XCV330]

I like Patrick Stewart. But the man is no more a saint than I am.

wait, I have to take your shrine down? you HAVEN'T been intercessing my sins!?

 

[Noname Given]

Do the tattoos, or their absence, get any new explanation?

Why would you assume that just because it was something the crew of one Romulan mining vessel (the Narada) did in response to the catastrophe - that ALL surviving Romulans did the same? Also would any children of said survivors still do it?

 

[DaveyNY]

He did actually tell them NO, twice, before they came back after talking to him for a couple of hours with a 34 page outline that pretty much described the only way he said he would ever do it again.


He pulled a "Connery"..., Never Say Never.

 

[Noname Given]

I'm sure that $20 million dollar salary didn't hurt matters when attempting to lure him back.

Yeas, and I sure his kids are happy about that too.

 

[ICW]

I like this conversation better than the OMG DISCO SHIPZ one

 

[Doctor Tiki]

They study zippers on uniforms.

I only see excellent art historians, anthropologists, and investigators, the very people you would consult, before spending money on art auctions---------while normal people can't tell the difference between an iPad and an iPod.

 

[XCV330]

I only see excellent art historians, anthropologists, and investigators, the very people you would consult, before spending money on art auctions---------while normal people can't tell the difference between an iPad and an iPod.

Myopia is easily treated.

 

[Doctor Tiki]

Some people are excellent at this, others aren't.

Imagine a voice like Emmanuel Macron in the US Congress, as an authentic French speaking English from a position of authority, in a Measure of a Man.

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