USS Voyager (eventually) on Picard?

[Nerys Myk]

That would mean that my skills in English, which is not my native tongue, played tricks on me.

It very well might. Continuity is mentioning events from past installments. Spock's Pon farr or Data's creator's name. An arc is a storyline or character's development that progresses with each installment. The "trial of humaity" is neither. It was rarely referred to over the course of seven years. It pops up as part of a bookend.

 

[Nerys Myk]

TNG's arc: Humanity has to prove that it's worthy of going out into space and having adventures by going out into space and having adventures.

The human-centric absurdity of sending us back to Earth if we failed has always bugged me. Is the Federation/Starfleet a multi species organization or not????

 

[JesterFace]

The "trial of humaity" is neither. It was rarely referred to over the course of seven years. It pops up as part of a bookend.

Rarely mentioned but it's still there.

Responding to few earlier posts:
I think an episodic story with some general idea running in the back can be better than a story that is continued weekly. Every episode doesn't have to be about the same thing. And if there's a plothole big enough to drive a train through it, that kind of ruins the whole thing.

On the other hand next to STNG my other favourite series is season 1 of 24.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Rarely mentioned but it's still there.

Responding to few earlier posts:
I think an episodic story with some general idea running in the back can be better than a story that is continued weekly. Every episode doesn't have to be about the same thing. And if there's a plothole big enough to drive a train through it, that kind of ruins the whole thing.

On the other hand next to STNG my other favourite series is season 1 of 24.

There is no general idea running through TNG other than what @Abbey Chrimble calls "going out into space and having adventures".

 

[The Old Mixer]

Who knows how much different the series might have been if Q hadn't come along and the Enterprise had proceeded with its original mission, which was to go out into space and have adventures.

 

[JesterFace]

There is no general idea running through TNG other than what @Abbey Chrimble calls "going out into space and having adventures".

Except the one we have been talking about....
Q himself mentions it in the beginning and in the end.
It's there.
Whether one likes it or not.
At least for me it's there. FanFic.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Except the one we have been talking about....
Q himself mentions it in the beginning and in the end.
It's there.
Whether one likes it or not.
At least for me it's there. FanFic.

Yeah that's not running through

 

[fireproof78]

Sounds like a reading in to the material rather reading out what's there.

 

[JesterFace]

Who knows how much different the series might have been if Q hadn't come along and the Enterprise had proceeded with its original mission, which was to go out into space and have adventures.

Do you think it would have been better or worse?

For me the trial gives the entire series some kind of meaning, it's not just space battles and aliens, there's more at stake.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Who knows how much different the series might have been if Q hadn't come along and the Enterprise had proceeded with its original mission, which was to go out into space and have adventures.

Without Q it would probably be about going into space and having adventures

 

[Nerys Myk]

Do you think it would have been better or worse?

For me the trial gives the entire series some kind of meaning, it's not just space battles and aliens, there's more at stake.

A meaning that is pretty much absent from the show it's self.

 

[JesterFace]

Yeah that's not running through

In a way it is a plot running through the series. From first episode to the last, it's how you look at it.
I have my way of looking at it, others have their own.

 

[Nerys Myk]

In a way it is a plot running through the series. From first episode to the last, it's how you look at it.
I have my way of looking at it, others have their own.

No, it's the in between that makes it a plot. That's where the "running through" happens.

 

[The Old Mixer]

This all reminds me of an old in-joke with the ex. When one of us would tell the other to do something that the other was planning to do anyway, the other would say, "Now you'll think it was your idea!"

The crew of the Enterprise after Q leaves: "Now he'll think it was his idea!"

 

[Nerys Myk]

In a way it is a plot running through the series. From first episode to the last, it's how you look at it.
I have my way of looking at it, others have their own.

Nope. For it to run through it would have to be the focus of the series. Not just pop up at the end in borderline fanwank.

 

[NCC-73515]

It's pointless to define an exact boundary where arcs begin and background threads end. VOY had many stand-alone planet of the week episodes with an overall arc of getting home. Is it a full arc? Is it totally serialized? pointless. XD
TOS's arc was the 5 year mission - prove me wrong

 

[The Old Mixer]

TOS's arc was the 5 year mission - prove me wrong

We didn't see the beginning or end of the 5YM, but we do know that the in-between consisted of going out into space and having adventures.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's pointless to define an exact boundary where arcs begin and background threads end. VOY had many stand-alone planet of the week episodes with an overall arc of getting home. Is it a full arc? Is it totally serialized? pointless. XD
TOS's arc was the 5 year mission - prove me wrong

No one ever mentioned a 5 mission in any TOS episode. (There you go )

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

VOY had many stand-alone planet of the week episodes with an overall arc of getting home. Is it a full arc? Is it totally serialized? pointless. XD
TOS's arc was the 5 year mission - prove me wrong

Voyager?!?! What does this thread possibly have to do with Voyager?!
[Oh yeah....]

 

[DaveyNY]

The one thing that Picard did do that probably made a huge splash in the Federation News, was to destroy the career of a well known and beloved Star Fleet Admiral by pointing out publicly, her growing paranoia.
His run in with Admiral Satie was I'm sure, a highlight of that weeks Federation News cycle.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The one thing that Picard did do that probably made a huge splash in the Federation News, was to destroy the career of a well known and beloved Star Fleet Admiral by pointing out publicly, her growing paranoia.
His run in with Admiral Satie was I'm sure, a highlight of that weeks Federation News cycle.

You spelled Janeway wrong.