Rian Johnson trilogy canceled

[Gaith]

If you can look at all this and honestly conclude that there is zero evidence to so much as doubt that the RJ trilogy is still a go... well, I think that's bonkers.

Has someone said that?

Even if you semantically argue away your own wording of "lacks evidence" as not equaling zero evidence, as I already quoted, yes:

But there is no evidence to suggest its been cancelled

"No evidence" is functionally synonymous with "zero evidence." And not for the first time with him:

There’s no reason to believe otherwise until we have evidence. We don’t.

And then there's:

"That we know of" seems to cast doubt where there is no cause for doubt.

And then there's you again:

we have no information...

So, yeah, there are numerous people here pretty much, and sometimes outright, saying there is "zero evidence" to doubt the RJ trilogy.

 

[BillJ]

So, yeah, there are numerous people here pretty much, and sometimes outright, saying there is "zero evidence" to doubt the RJ trilogy.

What does it truly matter? Either it gets made, or it doesn't. The folks who want it canceled will be leading the same exact lives that they were leading prior to it being canceled. The folks who are willimg to see what he would do with a trilogy will be leading the same exact lives that they were leading prior to it being canceled.

Right now? All indications from Disney is that it is being worked on.

 

[Campe]

So, yeah, there are numerous people here pretty much, and sometimes outright, saying there is "zero evidence" to doubt the RJ trilogy.

Yeah, fine, let me restate since apparently, one has to be exacting with you: NO ONE AT LUCASFILM HAS DEFINITIVELY SAID THE TRILOGY HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

Better?

 

[Gaith]

What does it truly matter?

It doesn't, but I find the speculation and guessing interesting and fun, and the prevailing response to said speculation and guessing has been hostility and insults. If you or anyone else doesn't find the speculation and guessing fun, more power to you! Don't engage with it. But that's no reason to pester those of us who do.

NO ONE AT LUCASFILM HAS DEFINITIVELY SAID THE TRILOGY HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

Better?

Well, since you're making an objectively true statement that doesn't deny that there's legitimate room for doubt as to whether the announced trilogy will actually be made, actually, yes, that is better. Well done!

 

[crookeddy]

Well, since you're making an objectively true statement that doesn't deny that there's legitimate room for doubt as to whether the announced trilogy will actually be made, actually, yes, that is better. Well done!

He's been saying this all along...

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, fine, let me restate since apparently, one has to be exacting with you: NO ONE AT LUCASFILM HAS DEFINITIVELY SAID THE TRILOGY HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

Better?

Same here. We lack evidence to conclude that it's be cancelled and have evidence that is continuing. Therefore, I will err on the side that it is continuing.

 

[Campe]

He's been saying this all along...

Same here. We lack evidence to conclude that it's be cancelled and have evidence that is continuing. Therefore, I will err on the side that it is continuing.

Thank you!

 

[fireproof78]

Thank you!

Here for you, buddy.

 

[Qonundrum]

Based on reviews of TRoS so far*, I hope it's not canceled. Even before TLJ some were saying there was no plan laid out in advance by the new teams and Rian added in a lot more than was interesting instead of a bunch of lame mystery boxes and a couple potentially good set piece arcs buried under a ton of empty nostalgia massaging. Finn and Rey got squandered the most.


* I'll watch and decide for myself but

Spoiler

a lot of these released articles from Forbes, et al, seem really disappointed. Especially with Palpatine coming back for absolutely no reason and retconning the previous movies, never mind ep 7 didn't do any setup to begin with (so Rian getting all the blame for the new trilogy is waaaaaaaaaaay unfair)

 

[Mach5]

There's no chance of this trilogy happening at this point. TROS is about to disappoint financially (reportedly 15-20% down from TLJ in most major territories), and Disney is going to want a take a step back and re-strategize.

For the time being the future of the franchise in on television, and that's a good thing.

 

[TRON JA307020]

There's no chance of this trilogy happening at this point. TROS is about to disappoint financially (reportedly 15-20% down from TLJ in most major territories), and Disney is going to want a take a step back and re-strategize.

For the time being the future of the franchise in on television, and that's a good thing.

Yeah the movies are dead after this one. I’m looking forward to the obi wan show. Disney really killed the movie franchise for good. Too bad.

 

[JD]

Do we actually know what kind of money The Rise of Skywalker is bringing? Just because it's getting bad reviews doesn't mean it's not going to be record smashing hit, tons of movies with worse reviews have managed to be record breaking hits. When it comes to deciding the future of the franchise, it's going to be the box office numbers that are the deciding factor, not the reviews.

 

[Mach5]

Do we actually know what kind of money The Rise of Skywalker is bringing?

Yes. The movie is already out in Europe (opened yesterday in most countries) and the opening day numbers are way down from the previous two films (it opened below AOTC in France). Also, there's pre-sales data for North America available online, and it doesn't look great. We're talking Rogue One numbers. Which were great for a spinoff movie.

 

[JD]

Oh, OK then.

 

[oojason]

For those interested - an article on projected takings for TROS (in the USA) from the ‘Box Office Pro’ website…

‘Weekend Forecast: What to Expect from Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker‘s Domestic Run as It Now Tracks for $160-190M Launch’:-

https://www.boxofficepro.com/weeken...stic-run-as-it-now-tracks-for-160-190m-launch


BoxOfficeMojo will likely have some info up for US and 'foreign' on Sunday/Monday?:-

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3305145857


So... Rian Johnson's Star Wars project is NOT actually cancelled? Sort of a misleading title for a thread there...

 

[HugeLobes]

Yes. The movie is already out in Europe (opened yesterday in most countries) and the opening day numbers are way down from the previous two films (it opened below AOTC in France). Also, there's pre-sales data for North America available online, and it doesn't look great. We're talking Rogue One numbers. Which were great for a spinoff movie.

You can't open the same week as Cats and not expect to take a hit at the box office.

 

[Spot261]

Even if you semantically argue away your own wording of "lacks evidence" as not equaling zero evidence, as I already quoted, yes:

"No evidence" is functionally synonymous with "zero evidence." And not for the first time with him:



And then there's:



And then there's you again:

So, yeah, there are numerous people here pretty much, and sometimes outright, saying there is "zero evidence" to doubt the RJ trilogy.

Well done, you've (sort of) rediscovered the legal concept of reasonable doubt, after a fashion.

If you squint.

However, since this is not a court of law and simply a couple of sci fi fans gossiping about some films which may or may not be happening the best we can say is the OP adds little, if anything, to the mix.

We never "knew" the films were being made, we never "knew" they weren't. That is still true.

We believed it was likely going ahead and as nothing tangible has changed the default is to continue believing that until someone tells us otherwise. Anything else is speculation.

 

[Jayson1]

This could be the end of Kennedy if these movies under perform. They will no doubt let her stepdown and will get some huge job somewhere else but if Disney wants a new direction that usually means new leadership but no way does Feige get the job. One man can only do so much and he is destined to be Bob Iger's second in command. I say put Faverou in charge and also be active in the movie side while Debrow Chow runs the tv division. Jason

 

[cooleddie74]

Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau.

 

[Jayson1]

Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau.

That works as well but they got a good thing in Chow and needs to keep her around with more resposbilties. Maybe even their first female director especially when the do a Mandorlorian movie. We all know it will happen. Baby Yoda is to big to be limited to tv forever. Jason