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Michael B. Jordan as the Man Of Steel?

OK, it might not be your intent, but you really do sound super racist right now.
EDIT: Oops, that was the post above yours King Bob, not yours.

I have commented on Black Pather being a very good film that had a black cast and encourage more of it. And encourage Hollywood to make an Icon, John Stewart GL, Vixen, Cyborg or Martian Manhunter played by a black person. So how me not wanting an iconic character like Superman to be changed to a black person and established characters who are white being made black to tick a box racist.

I have shown in this forum that i have no issues with black actors being cast in movies, I just have an issue with changing for the sake of changing just to tick the diversity agenda box.

But I guess people's minds are made up, the R card has been thrown down and as I have said it is to played far too liberally these days for me to take being called one seriously. So peace out.
 
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I bet Paramount would salivate for such a bomb from Trek. The movie did $709 million worldwide. :eek:

Solo would likely be the better comparison.
Idiots already blame their imaginary boycott for Solo’s box office results, so it’s a bad example. Even though Disney blames their lack of marketing and releasing it 5 months after the last film.

The second Independence Day would work. It’s no more diverse than the original and it bombed. Now we’ll never get the sequel where humanity goes off to commit space genocide lead by a giant space ball. It was dumb as hell, but it kept me entertained.
 
If you won't watch something simply because of the skin colour of the actor then...

You're a Racist.

Just stop the racist nonsense.

I wouldn't watch it because I have no interest in seeing Superman race changed, It would not be the Superman I relate to or grew up with. That is a personal choice one I am entitled to have. I do not like the idea or premise behind the movie.

Am I also misogynistic because I don't want to watch the marketed as Woke Charlie Angels film as it holds no appeal for me?
 
I wouldn't watch it because I have no interest in seeing Superman race changed, It would not be the Superman I relate to or grew up with. That is a personal choice one I am entitled to have. I do not like the idea or premise behind the movie.

Given he is an alien, why should color matter so much? You bring up the human persona of Martian Manhunter being okay to change, but for many folks he is white. Why is it okay for one and not the other?

Am I also misogynistic because I don't want to watch the marketed as Woke Charlie Angels film as it holds no appeal for me?

For fairness, I didn't know this movie was even out. Even if I did, I would've skipped it. Not a big fan of the original.
 
Just stop the racist nonsense.

I wouldn't watch it because I have no interest in seeing Superman race changed, It would not be the Superman I relate to or grew up with. That is a personal choice one I am entitled to have. I do not like the idea or premise behind the movie.
So you can only relate to a living god from space raised by farmers if he’s white? It honestly speaks of some level of bias, perhaps unconsciously. I’m not a white man, but I can relate to male characters regardless of their race in movies. Movies are empathy generating machines, they make us connect to the characters however different. People were able to connect to aliens in District 9 and they were giant bugs. Certain experiences are universal and that’s what a good movie aims for. The fact that you say you can’t relate to a black Superman but can to a white one isn’t a good sign.

Am I also misogynistic because I don't want to watch the marketed as Woke Charlie Angels film as it holds no appeal for me?
No, it’s calling it woke that raises red flags. Using that as an insult is a dog whistle for bigots, along with several other phrases you’ve used. So while you may not be actually racist, you just talk and act exactly like they do online. You may want to show more awareness in the future.
 
So you can only relate to a living god from space raised by farmers if he’s white? It honestly speaks of some level of bias, perhaps unconsciously. I’m not a white man, but I can relate to male characters regardless of their race in movies. Movies are empathy generating machines, they make us connect to the characters however different. People were able to connect to aliens in District 9 and they were giant bugs. Certain experiences are universal and that’s what a good movie aims for. The fact that you say you can’t relate to a black Superman but can to a white one isn’t a good sign.


No, it’s calling it woke that raises red flags. Using that as an insult is a dog whistle for bigots, along with several other phrases you’ve used. So while you may not be actually racist, you just talk and act exactly like they do online. You may want to show more awareness in the future.

Charlie's Angels was marketed as woke and stated as such by its director and also stated that it wasn't made for men. So I'm only commenting on what has already been said rather than insulting it.

Yes, i am biased Superman is my favorite Superhero and I prefer him to stay how he is consistently portrayed. How does changing the character's race improve him?.

You may argue it gives writers a license to establish a new take on the character with a new origin story, new personality, new conflicts from being brought up as a black person and a new perspective on how Superman sees the world from that upbringing.
But I'd argue that other than the S he may wear on his chest and the superpowers this makes him a completely different character, so why not just make a superhero film with a black person who has those powers but is an original creation rather than ripping off an existing property and changing it just so you can use the Superman name to market the movie and get a few more bums on seats.
 
You may argue it gives writers a license to establish a new take on the character with a new origin story, new personality, new conflicts from being brought up as a black person and a new perspective on how Superman sees the world from that upbringing.

Did you ever think a new take on the character may be desperately needed? That there is a reason why folks no longer get excited when a Superman project is put out?
 
Did you ever think a new take on the character may be desperately needed? That there is a reason why folks no longer get excited when a Superman project is put out?

I know you have the best of intentions but you won't change my mind on this matter. Superman is who he has been portrayed for the last 70 plus years. Changing those cores doesn't make him Superman anymore.

Maybe it's also a case of people are tired of seeing Superman fight Zod or Lex Luthor in his movies instead of say Darkseid or having a War World story taking place off Earth where he has to deal with Mongul.
 
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