Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths to be 5-Part Crossover

I think Superman's heat vision gave out first because he was just coming from Argo and his body wasn't fully "yellow sun charged".

 

That's a mature response. Still doesn't change that Superwimp is still not written in character. It's the writers that make him that way on this show because of their own insecurities.

That would be a reasonable explanation if they offered it. That goes against their Superwimp narrative.

 

You sound like a child.

The TV shows are a different universe ffs. They don't need to portray him 1:1 to the comics.

 

Is anyone else confused by the STAR CITY 2046 storyline?

At first, I thought it was a continuity correction to align the Earth-1 future with what we have seen in Legends and Arrow. But it does not line up with what we saw....

The Star City 2046 visited in CRISIS is not the same one from LEGENDS. Sara's line of dialogue made it sound like it was to me.

The Legends' Star City is an alternate possible future based on Sara and Ray never returning to Star City from their Legends mission.

The Crisis Star City is a world where Sara died on the Gambit.

In both, it appears Oliver lost an arm.

Was anyone else confused by this?

 

Read the childish post I was responding to--and while these are different universes, if they are going to use Superman, they should actually use the character, and not turn him into Superwimp just because the writers are insecure.

I don't remember that episode of Legends very well, but Sarah absolutely made it seem like they were returning to a place they visited before and had not realized was another Earth.

 

The fairly observant post you were responding to.

What's childish is hanging sulky nicknames like "Superwimp" on Superman.

Crisis looks like it's serving as a bit of pump-priming for the new Lois and Superman series. One assumes the same creative team will be involved on that one.

 

The "discrepancies" can be explained via time travel.

The Legends may have traveled back to Earth-16 in the year 2046 from 2019, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they went back after the events of the "Star City 2046" episode had happened.

 

The shoe fits. I hope the creative team of Superman actually treats the character properly, and not as a jobber for Supergirl.

Superwimp is appropriate until the writers write him differently. I hope that happens. But for now, he has been written as a total wimp the entire time, and his sole purpose was to be weak so Supergirl could look stronger than the character should be, because woke.

I'm very curious how the Routh version will be. I'm guessing he will be in only tonight's episode, along with Tom Welling. I wish they would be around more, but I don't think that's happening.

Maybe there will be seeds planted for something with next year's series.

I hope so, because that could be a fascinating story.

 

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

Just because you buy into Superwimp doesn't mean others do. Superman is the most legendary comic book hero of all time. So seeing a bunch of insecure writers write him so weakly is going to get outcry from people who don't like watching Superman portrayed as such a wimp. It says more about the writers than the character.

 

It certainly says something about a writer of posts on this BBS.

 

It does indeed. It says he doesn't like how Superman is being portrayed so far. And he can make his point without insulting other posters.

 

Pretty much, yeah.

 

That’s fine.

Not particularly, given the body of work.

 

God, can't you just shut the fuck up with your obnoxious fucking bullshit for once. Seriously, you are very quickly surpassing Kirk55555 as the most aggravating person here.

Spoiler: Episode 1

Loved the first episode.
I have to admit, I gave a bit of yelp when they showed Hawk and Jason Todd from Titans, and I loved Burt Ward's appearance.
Oliver giving Mia her Green Arrow costume was a nice passing the torch moment.
At first I thought maybe John's trip to 2046 was going to be a way to age him up, so I was a little surprised he was still a baby when they found him.
I was a little surprised how easy the Shadow Demons were so easy to defeat, but I guess they wanted to give the non-meta heroes a chance against them.
I loved seeing all of the heroes fighting to defend the Quantum Tower.
I was really surprised they actually killed Oliver already, I was expecting him to at least make it to the Arrow episode.
I was happy they cleared up the whole Oliver sacrificing himself for Barry and Kara thing, since apparently some people didn't get that.
So that was the Anti-Monitor behind the door Nash opened. But then that raises the question of why Earth-2 was destroyed if the Anit-Monitor was still locked up and the Crisis hadn't started yet.

 

Look a little harder and see the direction that the insults are hurled. But the bottom line is that these writers have issues which I am hoping can be addressed in the Superman show. I want to change my mind.

Superwimp should not overshadow the rest of it, and there are a lot of other elements to talk about, which I do. It's others that are obsessed with insults and weak counters.

I think this proves my point. The aggravation is on you. Not everyone agrees with your outlook. Unless this board is something where opinions are not welcome, and I don't think that's the case, then you need to deal better with differing opinions.

 

They are. They're just not using him in a way that your fragile masculinity can handle.

The show isn't being Anti-Male.

 

Having masculinity doesn't make it fragile. But it does let me recognize that Superman is a complete wimp. I don't feel that way about Barry or Oliver, but that's because the writers aren't so insecure about them.

You have it completely backwards. It's the writers that have a chip on their shoulders. If they didn't, they wouldn't have to make Superman into a wimp to make Supergirl strong. They would have enough confidence in their writing and in the character that Superman can be Superman and that doesn't make Supergirl any less.

Wonder Woman got that right.

 

There's differing opinions, and then there's being an obnoxious ass...

 

They haven't turned Superman into a wimp. That's something you're projecting onto the show that doesn't exist.

Since no one else here seems to agree with you, this is your problem, not the writers.

Have you considered not watching a show that upsets you so much? It would probably be healthier for you.