You really don't see that the two aren't mutually exclusive?
Episode IX Speculation and Discussion
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You really don't see that the two aren't mutually exclusive?
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Well yeah, that was the point I was making.
The lack of backstory for the lightsaber showing up doesn't ruin anything for me or even particularly bother me, the only thing bothers me is the way that some people are acting as though it's ridiculous to want an answer to the question.
Apparently there will be sprinkles of all past themes in the movie. They're really treating this like a finale.
End of the Skywalker trilogy yes BUT not the end of Star Wars movies which some people like the general public are not aware of
I'm sure a Mandalorian movie is being toyed around with.
End of the Skywalker trilogy yes BUT not the end of Star Wars movies which some people like the general public are not aware of
I'm sure a Mandalorian movie is being toyed around with.
These things are mutually exclusive, though, because they happened two years or more apart.
Leia would have chosen to form the Resistance even if Ben hadn't fallen because she recognized what the New Republic government refused to: the First Order was an actual threat to the galaxy.
Not seeing things in quite the binary terms you are here to be honest, people don't act for such clearly delineated motives in real life, but not going to argue about it
^ Leia's reasons for forming the Resistance - and the timeline for its formation - are explicitly spelled out in Canon by the novel Bloodline (written by Claudia Grey).
We also know, via the Lucasfilm Story Group, that Ben's fall occurred after the events of that novel, although we don't yet have a defined timeline for exactly how long after the events of that novel his fall occurred.
We also know, via the Lucasfilm Story Group, that Ben's fall occurred after the events of that novel, although we don't yet have a defined timeline for exactly how long after the events of that novel his fall occurred.
It's implied in TFA that Leia had felt guilty about Ben's fall and threw herself into her work, by her admission that she and Han each went back to the only thing they had been good at. Part of her sense of guilt could have been the notion, that maybe she sometimes was tempted to believe, that maybe if she hadn't just shipped him off to Luke he wouldn't have fallen.
Bloodline establishes that Leia's comment was a generalization, not an actual descriptor of how she and Han dealt with their grief over Ben's fall, because she'd already "gone back to the only thing she was good at" before Ben's fall, whereas Han retreating into smuggling was a direct reaction to Ben's fall and happened as a direct consequence of it.
The word "canon" does not require capitalisation, just so you know.
As for having things spelled out for me, no thanks, I prefer to watch and draw my own interpretations based on the performances and the characters. Real peoples' behaviour is never clearly delineated, but what exactly is the point you think I made anyway?
This was my post:
So what in that are you disagreeing with? Where is a timeline required for that statement to hold water?
Here's the thing: Leia "forming the Resistance" wasn't like she grabbed a bunch of X-Wing pilots and set up a secret base overnight. In the beginning, it was just a few people and an ideal, just like the rebellion started out as a conversation in a room between Bail, Mon, Padme and a few others.
So the idea that Leia fully dove into it *after* Ben's fall is entirely consistent with the line in TFA. Just how anyone can bury themselves in their work to cope with grief or stress, doesn't mean they weren't already working to begin with.
So the idea that Leia fully dove into it *after* Ben's fall is entirely consistent with the line in TFA. Just how anyone can bury themselves in their work to cope with grief or stress, doesn't mean they weren't already working to begin with.
That looks great. I can't wait to see this film.
A hospice patient in England who is not expected to survive to December 20th and his son were allowed to watch The Rise of Skywalker early.
With so much negativity around the franchise these days, it's always nice to see something positive within it.
With so much negativity around the franchise these days, it's always nice to see something positive within it.
A shame this stuff doesn’t get more of the spotlight versus the latest white male meltdown over some perceived slight.
Same reason why all the positive stories and enjoyment at Galaxy's Edge got glossed over. Acknowledging that Disney isn't pure evil doesn't serve the narrative.
