I feel that in general, audiences have become less tolerant of expository dialogue that interrupts the flow of the story, which is why so many films now open with narration.
Episode IX Speculation and Discussion
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Funny how some folks are able to make fair criticisms of these films without tearing down the people involved.
It doesn't mean that I agree with all of it, just refreshing to see it without diatribes about Kathleen Kennedy.
It doesn't mean that I agree with all of it, just refreshing to see it without diatribes about Kathleen Kennedy.
But, Bill... Its all her fault. Everything creative. Even if she is basically a secretary.
But, Bill... Its all her fault. Everything creative. Even if she is basically a secretary.
I find the lack of logic... troubling.
I think that trend started as soon as Lucas saw how well the original action figures were selling.
Conspiracy theories often feature individuals or groups who are simultaneously incompetent failures AND genius-level criminal masterminds.
My favorite part of re-watching TOS?Norman... coordinate!
Counting how many times I can see sweat bead up on those poor actors faces. Thanks, extremely hot 60's era lights!
Not really, no.
I'm not saying it's unreasonable to ask the question, to wonder, even imagine the backstory a bit. But it's just a simple object. It's not super powerful, super dangerous or worth a fortune. I see no logical reason why any story should go out of its way to tell how a simple object thought lost long ago found its way into a mysterious box for the hero to open. Sometimes an air of mystery is just an air of mystery to give a scene more gravitas and not an open invitation for deeper storytelling.
I'm totally on board that elements like Snoke and the First Order are at least somewhat undermined by their lack of context and can sometimes feel hollow because of it. Those are questions that probably need some kind of answer (however brief). But the lightsaber is exactly what it looks like and it does exactly what all other lightsabers do. There's no there there. There is zero important information regarding it that the audience doesn't have already. You might as well give us explanations of why Maul and Kylo use unusual lightsaber designs. Or how Han got his lucky dice and why they call him Solo.
Also every question answered is a mystery lost, something whose importance shouldn't be overlooked in building the mythos. Those unknowns are precisely where fans inject their own interpretations and creativity, where they put part of themselves into the process.
As for Snoke, he was Mace Windu.
Funnily enough so does MENSA.
By the way, @CorporalCaptain having given the question some in depth analysis over the past two seconds or so I've come to the uninformed conclusion that the falling object was Lukes' hand.
When it comes to the lightsaber, I don't really see why there has to be some dramatic story worth telling. Somebody probably just stumbled across it and either gave it to Maz because they knew she was interested in that kind of stuff, or she found it and bought it off them.
I'm curious if we're going to learn more about Snoke, but he really isn't actually that important to the overall story. He was just a way for Kylo Ren to be drawn away from Luke and he's served that purpose now. I wouldn't mind getting some backstory on him, but it's really not a make or break thing for me.
The only thing I'm really expecting to get more information on at this point is Rey's origins, and that's only because the people involved have said there is more to that story.
As for backstory for the First Order, New Republic, and Resistance that's all been covered pretty well in the books and comics, and really isn't that important to Rey, Finn and Poe's story, so I don't see a need for the movies to go into detail on that.
John Boyega has admitted that it was his script that ended up on Ebay. Apparently he was in the process of moving, and stuck it under his bed until the next morning, but his friends showed up and they spent the night partying. When he got up the next morning, he forgot it and left without it.
I'm curious if we're going to learn more about Snoke, but he really isn't actually that important to the overall story. He was just a way for Kylo Ren to be drawn away from Luke and he's served that purpose now. I wouldn't mind getting some backstory on him, but it's really not a make or break thing for me.
The only thing I'm really expecting to get more information on at this point is Rey's origins, and that's only because the people involved have said there is more to that story.
As for backstory for the First Order, New Republic, and Resistance that's all been covered pretty well in the books and comics, and really isn't that important to Rey, Finn and Poe's story, so I don't see a need for the movies to go into detail on that.
John Boyega has admitted that it was his script that ended up on Ebay. Apparently he was in the process of moving, and stuck it under his bed until the next morning, but his friends showed up and they spent the night partying. When he got up the next morning, he forgot it and left without it.
I always figured it was a piece of the weathervane or something, but let's say it is his hand. If someone actually did cut one's hand off, would the muscles release, thereby letting go of anything in said hand? Or would it continue to hold?
There are no more muscles attached, so... It's not going to hold onto anything.
A fair point! So, maybe his hand. Probably not his saber.
Going back to the lightsaber, IIRC one of the original openings for TFA would have shown the saber floating through space for some reason.
There's also a deleted scene from TFA where Maz hands the lightsaber to Leia (it's in the second teaser trailer)
There's also a deleted scene from TFA where Maz hands the lightsaber to Leia (it's in the second teaser trailer)
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