Black Lightning the series isn't part of the crossover, we are just getting appearances from some of the cast in the later episodes.
Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths to be 5-Part Crossover
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They've released a new batch of photos from The Flash episode. One thing that caught my notice right away is that we see Batwoman interacting with Lex Luthor without her cowl. So does that mean he already knows who she is?
The photos also include Black Lighting and Flash-90 on the Waverider with the rest of the heroes, and Tom Cavanagh in his Pariah costume, and Cisco apparently back to being Vibe.
Entertainment Weekly also has an interview with Kevin Conroy about his role in Crisis on Infinite Earths. From what he says, it sounds like he's just on the Batwoman episode, mostly interacts with Batwoman and Supergirl.
The photos also include Black Lighting and Flash-90 on the Waverider with the rest of the heroes, and Tom Cavanagh in his Pariah costume, and Cisco apparently back to being Vibe.
Entertainment Weekly also has an interview with Kevin Conroy about his role in Crisis on Infinite Earths. From what he says, it sounds like he's just on the Batwoman episode, mostly interacts with Batwoman and Supergirl.
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DC's mistake then was trying to combine practically all of their multiverses into one...and I checked out soon afterward (due to time and finances)...but seems like the aftereffects were not planned very well.
(And having universes where the good guys are bad guys os just too good to get rid of).
ALL of the CW DC TV shows were in ONE universe to begin with. Just before Supergirl, they could have plausibly set things up to be one universe with Superman operating in another city. But a couple of things... Supergirl was on CBS, and i honestly think they were NOT planning on being in the same universe due to different networks
..but the ratings of Supergirl demanded an event like the crossover. Didnt help on CBS but surely helped CW.
And it is my contention that the creators of Black Lightning wanted to maintain creative control so they have been super hesitant to trust others with BL.
I think a combined Earths 1, 38 and BL will work just fine. And while we have had 2 Earths lins like the comic Earth 3, it would be great if they had one they could do battle with in the next big crossover.
DCs mistake was to not think through the ramifications of the story. Some characters were rebooted in ways that affected other series in unforeseen ways while other characters were not rebooted at all. In many ways, it is pretty similar to what has happened in the last four years with the new 52 reboot being almost entirely discarded but some characters still attached to that. Characters are popping up in story arcs (Heroes in Crisis for example, and some of the Bendis stuff) as if the New 52 never happened. This was supposed to have been resolved in Doomsday Clock but that now seems to be an Elseworlds story.
So, here's theory......
What if somehow, thanks to timetravelstuff, Oliver doesn't have to sacrifice himself, and can have a future with Felicity and raise Mia. Only problem is, this means Mia's present is now changed, she has nothing to go back too? So she stays in our present/her past?? And so we get the setup for the Canary show.
I know, a weird theory and I didn't even involve Future William here.....
I know, a weird theory and I didn't even involve Future William here.....
Pair-a-paradoxes....Say that 10 times fast....
Yeah, I suppose it does. Like I said, weird theory
From the trailer, it looks like there is something significant happens with Jefferson and that his role is not small. They don't need the Black Lightning cast or even his Earth to make Black Lightning a part of the story. They just need Jefferson, and they have him. I'm confident that Jefferson is going to have a much more important role than say Tom Welling, who I am guessing has just one scene where he plays with Erica Durance and will end up disappointing people worse than the lack of use of Flash 90 did last year.
It's not the cast--it's the time.
But you bring up an interesting point though--will Black Lightning even air during the crossover, or will they just be on hiatus?
I'm hoping you're right here too. I think that in the end, all the Earths should be restored, except maybe combining all the Earths we actually see every week. The multiverse is awesome and has so many great uses. You could do a Smallville/Superman and Lois crossover if the multiverse is in tact. You could continue all the interesting multi Earth stories on Flash.
I'd love to see a new Earth 1 though. Maybe something that allows for Diggle's history to be rewritten so he is John Stewart, as he should have been from the beginning. With Arrow ending, why not?
It was necessary for the company to survive publishing going forward; until the brilliant answer provided by Wolfman's COIE, DC was seriously hobbled by an unwieldy mix and mess of some great runs (certain titles from the early 40s, then the late 60s through the early 80s), but that was surrounded by decades of silly, near worthless material, especially from the late Golden-to-early-Silver Age, with few exceptions. DC had to clean house and make sense out of too many self-created and acquired licenses, or fall apart. The answer was clear, and it was a spectacular, historic success, as fans were finally able to see a logical plane of events in the DC universe instead of the cartoonish, "name-this-week's-universe" approach for so much of the company's history.
The CW version would do well to follow that grand set-up, unless it does not matter, as most of these shows are not going to last long enough (in the grand scheme of things) to have that much content. That said, they could take the preemptive strike and merge a couple of worlds / kill a few characters just to establish that, even if the characters will rarely share screen time.
It's already been confirmed that the Canary show takes place in the future
So now both The Flash and Arrow are treating the Monitor as a bad guy. I'm starting to wonder if you guys are right and it is going to turn out he really is the Anti-Monitor. That or if it's just going to be that all of the bad stuff he's done has been the only way he's been able to stop the Anti-Monitor?
Well, he's hardly a pure, noble sort. As we saw last year, he's testing Earths to destruction to see if any of them have heroes capable enough to handle the far worse threat that's coming. Basically "If you can handle the worst I can throw at you, maybe you can handle the Anti-Monitor, but if not, you're probably doomed anyway."
When and where?
Well, if the spinoff is in 2040, I guess they could still cross over with the Legends, at least.
They could still cross over with every other show either via time travel gimmick; or the 2020 characters in old age makeup (sans Supergirl as I'm sure they'll go with the Kryptonians age way slower routine). This is Silver age+ type material. 30 years isn't going to make much of a difference IF they want a all hands on deck crossover.
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