At this point in time, I'd settle for no Star Trek. If criticism is discouraged I'd say that actively enjoying current Trek is also discouraged.
Reasons not to make a Pike show
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Just like TOS and TNG did, eh? (In fact TNG's writing staff didn't stabilize until midway into its 4th season).
So far these poeple who supposedly "don't know how run a show" have produced:
- 2 seasons (29 episodes) of ST: D
- 6 Short Treks
- Have the first season of "Star Trek Picard" in the can and are in the post production phase - and I guess 5 episodes are fully completed as Patrick Stewart stated he's watched the completed first 5 episodes.
- Are filming ST: D Season 3 as I type this.
- Have two animated series in the works: "Lower Decks" for CBSAA; and one supposedly titled "Star Trek: Prodigy" for Nickelodeon.
- As late as last September of this year have said production and filming of a "Section 31" series (starring Michelle Yeoh) will begin after filming pof ST: D season 3 wraps.
So yeah sorry, for a group that you like to claim "don't know how to run a show"; they have been running a number of shows for a few years now.
^^With the exception of Kurtzman, Picard, Lower Decks, Prodigy and Section 31 have completely different production and writing staffs than Disco. Indeed, many of the Short Treks are done written by people not involved with Disco.
Writing staffs perhaps, but the set designers and prop makers, etc. are shared across the current Trek productions. That's why production on the first season of Picard was wrapped before they started production of ST: D season 3 - and why Section 31 will be produced after ST: D Season 3 is in the can.
No, Picard has different set designers and prop makers, the whole bunch. It would have to, given it films in California and Disco films in Toronto. Section 31 will probably share Disco's people, as it will also film in Toronto.
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This may make your head explode then:
https://www.startrek.com/videos/watch-a-timeline-through-the-star-trek-universe-part-i
Why would it make my head explode? It is entertainment. The more, the merrier.
Thank you for this.
Wait, so now the bar is down to “can make shows exist in the media landscape of 2019” and therefore any detailed criticism should stop?
Haven't read the replies, but I will try to answer the OP question. A reason not to make a Pike series at this time. Maybe they haven't identified a showrunner that they have confidence in. I am sure there will be no shortage of volunteers (including all the posters on trekbbs), but maybe Kurtzman hasn't yet found someone he likes. Michael Chabon would have been a prefect choice but he is busy with Picard. They need to find a Michael Chabon/Manny Coto/Ron Moore type, someone knowledgeable about TOS and passionate about it, and a good writer to boot.
J Michael Straczynski would be the perfect showrunner for a Pike show IMHO.
No, since a “Pike show” simply means a DSC S2 spinoff, whereas jms would want full creative control in order to create a reboot.
Read all 9 pages... Sheesh...
Back on topic...
I would love a more episodoc, anthogy series as compared to 13 episode serialized version that deals with the end of the galaxy...
And with 2 current serialized series std and stp there is room for a episodic series.
Now we can have an episodic series without giving up some serialized components. Could still have mini arcs like enterprise, or a generalized over arc like founding of the federation. and have consequences , that it's not reset every episode.
This could be done better in s series of movies like Sherlock that makes up a season.
And the characters won't be static like Tos or even tng Spock was Spock .. Kirk was Kirk.. ..
Have pike get more reckless knowing that his death is set, have Spock have PTSD from his encounter and emotional breakdown, have Una grow from a first officer to a captain, learn more about her and her faults. And ful out the crrw, have a temperate as the engineer, that spieces isn't fleshed out, have a Vulcan and andorian, ones that are older and remember there hostilities back during enterprise.
Have a romulan spy on board, have a belligerent klingon captain do a tholian arc,
There's Alot of stuff they could do and not even include any main tos characters. And alot of these ideas woukd be lost in some big over arc that's galaxy saving. Let personal moments dictate a whole episode.
It's Star Trek .. I'll take any format I can get!
Back on topic...
I would love a more episodoc, anthogy series as compared to 13 episode serialized version that deals with the end of the galaxy...
And with 2 current serialized series std and stp there is room for a episodic series.
Now we can have an episodic series without giving up some serialized components. Could still have mini arcs like enterprise, or a generalized over arc like founding of the federation. and have consequences , that it's not reset every episode.
This could be done better in s series of movies like Sherlock that makes up a season.
And the characters won't be static like Tos or even tng Spock was Spock .. Kirk was Kirk.. ..
Have pike get more reckless knowing that his death is set, have Spock have PTSD from his encounter and emotional breakdown, have Una grow from a first officer to a captain, learn more about her and her faults. And ful out the crrw, have a temperate as the engineer, that spieces isn't fleshed out, have a Vulcan and andorian, ones that are older and remember there hostilities back during enterprise.
Have a romulan spy on board, have a belligerent klingon captain do a tholian arc,
There's Alot of stuff they could do and not even include any main tos characters. And alot of these ideas woukd be lost in some big over arc that's galaxy saving. Let personal moments dictate a whole episode.
It's Star Trek .. I'll take any format I can get!
Please, no. That hack shouldn't be put anywhere near Star Trek.
Not sure I see him as a hack, but I’d prefer someone fresh to run a new show.
The notion that Star Trek’s traditional approach is worn out and needs replaced strikes me as odd when the latest season of Discovery devoted itself to ripping off Terminator movies that have completely exhausted audience goodwill. I’m not against change, but they need to come up with something better and fresher than what they’re replacing.
Where Pike keeps a sinister box in his quarters but the show is cancelled before we ever find out what's inside it. And they get new uniforms halfway through but randomly switch back to the old ones again a few episodes later.
