Pretty please. I'm tired of the overbloated superhero movies of the last ten to fifteen years. There are a few gems, but by and large, they just aren't very good, nor do they really have anything to say.
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Pretty please. I'm tired of the overbloated superhero movies of the last ten to fifteen years. There are a few gems, but by and large, they just aren't very good, nor do they really have anything to say.
Hey, whenever there's a pretentious "high on itself" flick coming on, I'm there to deflate the snobs who think a guy losing weight and overacting like a nutter is some kind of "high art".
No, it's taking a different approach on the genre, specifically in a film property that is most open to this approach. Batman is not like most superheroes. He is not a god among men, he is not a warrior; he is supposed to be "the world's greatest detective."
Taking a more grounded approach is not new, it is not offensive, and it doesn't "set the genre back," because of one film.
"seen in better movies" doesn't make it "angry white guy" trope in this movie. What an absurdist argument.
I’m a big fan of the Marvel movies and the continuity they’ve maintained there. But the more I think about the potential which standalone, lower-budgeted movies like this have, the more I like it. I would really love to see DC/WB make eg a 1930s Batman or Superman film (or even a 19th century Batman one). I don’t know how likely that is, given that Matt Reeves is planning a trilogy of Batmovies, but overall I hope it encourages WB to keep taking chances.
In the same vein, I don’t think Joker’s template necessarily will suit every villain, so hopefully we won’t see Riddler, Penguin, Two-Face etc.
In the same vein, I don’t think Joker’s template necessarily will suit every villain, so hopefully we won’t see Riddler, Penguin, Two-Face etc.
It does create fear in some folks. If a smaller comic book movie with limited SFX can do a billion dollars, what is to keep studios from beginning to investigate and invest in these kinds of films? Cutting into the grotesque run of $300 million dollar men-in-tights movies that boil down to "punch-punch-punch, kick-kick-kick, bitch-bitch-bitch".
I guess so, though it is a fear I do not have.
I mean, I'll never understand the fear of having more variety within a genre.
Yep.
Versus a Marvel movie: quip, quip, punch punch, I have Daddy issues, quip quip, punch punch?
I get it, you didn't like it. But, you're an outlier.
How anyone can fail to understand that is.....
Anyway, he is not the kind of hero who has every case/adventure immersed in energy blasts, explosions and overpowered villains. There are too many other characters who are defined by those stories, so Batman--with few exceptions--gains nothing from being tossed into that blender because some are obsessed with...noise and jumping around.
Of course, and the more grounded approach has been used with success in TV and film for decades. In the same era where Donner's Superman movie had to call on its bigger than life sci-fi/pulp roots, The Incredible Hulk TV series aired using a serious, compelling, grounded approach and was a success. No production suffered because of the existence/approach of the other.
Absurd is spot-on. He's posting anything as part of his DC movie hatred, and the success it had not doing it the MCU way.
It has to come to that, as the "punch-punch-punch, kick-kick-kick, bitch-bitch-bitch" angle was worn over 10 MCU films ago; its a thin formula that cannot go on and on like cartoon characters who do the same thing, with the same, expected outcome (e.g. most Popeye cartoons).
True.
Look at Smallville for crying out loud. DC has done very well with more grounded stories, relatable characters, and dealing with their personal tragedies.
Something unashamed, ungrounded and not needing to be about a new character whose merely hijacked the name due to the creators disliking comics?
Yeah, I'll stick with the latter.
Go for it. Other people are allowed to enjoy it and has nothing to do with shame. Just like I can like Adam West's Batman but not Burton's Batman. It's called variety and Batman has had that in spades.
I hope you keep getting Marvel movies for as long as you want them. Me? They wore out their welcome a while ago. I actually fell asleep during Endgame. I found Joker was refreshingly engaging.
I haven't even made it to Infinity War. Civil War was just meh.
Sorry, man. It was bound to happen eventually the discovery that I'm not perfect.Not cool, man!
Is anyone suggesting otherwise?
It seems to be you telling everyone what they should like.