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Alex Kurtzman on the Fine Line Between Adding to, and Staying True to, Star Trek's Canon

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Frankly, I find the interiors (except for the bridge) harder to explain then the exterior (not counting the flip-flop between the DSC and the TOS pilot configurations
 
The bottom drawing is not accurate to the actual CGI model, nor is it the right size. The DSC Enterprise is larger.

Yeah, come to think of it, it doesn't quite look like the screencaps.

As far as the size goes, I took it to be that they were scaled to the same size for comparison purposes of the designs, not for exact size comparisons. That said, it's my understanding that the displays on DSC use the classic TOS Enterprise's dimensions, indicating that the ships are supposed to be the same size and that the DSC being larger is artistic license. (It's hardly the first time that ship sizes vary from installment to installment, not to mention that logic dictates that the DSC Enterprise must be the same size as the TOS one for them to be one and the same.
 
Yeah, come to think of it, it doesn't quite look like the screencaps.

As far as the size goes, I took it to be that they were scaled to the same size for comparison purposes of the designs, not for exact size comparisons. That said, it's my understanding that the displays on DSC use the classic TOS Enterprise's dimensions, indicating that the ships are supposed to be the same size and that the DSC being larger is artistic license. (It's hardly the first time that ship sizes vary from installment to installment, not to mention that logic dictates that the DSC Enterprise must be the same size as the TOS one for them to be one and the same.
The shape is different, which means the proportional sizes don't match at all, particularly height.
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Plus I think this graphic is only visible in BTS photos.
 
What really bothered me was the mish-mash of sound effects from TOS, TNG, visuals from the movies, and a few other things. It just didn't make any sense.
 
The shape is different, which means the proportional sizes don't match at all, particularly height.
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Plus I think this graphic is only visible in BTS photos.

Saw a random YouTube video on the ship, where they showed what was claimed to be a screen cap with the info from the show. I guess that the dimensions don't have to be exact, but I guess I think that the DSC Enterprise is about the same size as the TOS one, with any discrepancies being chalked up to artistic license.
 
but I guess I think that the DSC Enterprise is about the same size as the TOS one

The official length from CBS is 442.06 Meters, that's the number they gave to both Star Trek Online and Eaglemoss.

I'm guessing that the graphic artist was told to make an info screen for the Enterprise, but wasn't given any actual info from the production to put on it, so they just took it all from the Franz Joseph tech manual.

Plus I think this graphic is only visible in BTS photos.
You can see part of it on Stamets' console in the final episode.
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The official length from CBS is 442.06 Meters, that's the number they gave to both Star Trek Online and Eaglemoss.

I'm guessing that the graphic artist was told to make an info screen for the Enterprise, but wasn't given any actual info from the production to put on it, so they just took it all from the Franz Joseph tech manual.

But how could the ship be such different sizes in different eras?
 
Obligatory repost of the recent Eaglemoss tech book depicting both versions of the Enterprise at their different sizes like it's nothing at all
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Your imagination stretches far more than mine. The exteriors, I can see to an extent. The interiors, not so much.



I don't subscribe to the idea of the Enterprise switching back and forth between the DSC and TOS design. Which, I agree with you, is totally ridiculous. In the DSC Forum, I had to go out of my way to not respond to someone who was trying to push really hard that he thought the ship switched back and forth between the two looks. I'm not one of those people who thinks that. I couldn't even respond to that because I thought it was such a stupid idea.

As far as I'm concerned: In DSC, the Enterprise never looked like it did in TOS and never will. And in TOS, the Enterprise never looked like it did in DSC. I treat DSC and TOS as different visual depictions of the same story being told.
All of this canon headache could've simply been resolved by establishing DISCO was a prequel to JJTrek.
 
All of this canon headache could've simply been resolved by establishing DISCO was a prequel to JJTrek.
Except the plot doesn't follow at all? The Enterprise is brand new in ST'09. There has never been a Klingon war in Into Darkness.

They should have just called it a fresh reboot.
 
Obligatory repost of the recent Eaglemoss tech book depicting both versions of the Enterprise at their different sizes like it's nothing at all
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What a mess. Either Discovery is a reboot or it isn't or the producers don't care about these things (turbolift funhouse). I wish they'd quit fucking with us.
 
What a mess. Either Discovery is a reboot or it isn't or the producers don't care about these things (turbolift funhouse). I wish they'd quit fucking with us.

Let’s clarify things: it’s CBS that doesn’t care (or at least, only cares that their show not be confused with the Kelvin timeline movies.) The producers of DSC care, but either they can’t seem to get it “right” enough to please the fans of this BBS, or they’ve decided to throw up their arms in defeat and ‘reboot’ the show into the far future so that they don’t have to worry about canon anymore (although how that’s going to affect the Section 31 show is a mystery to me.)
 
Let’s clarify things: it’s CBS that doesn’t care (or at least, only cares that their show not be confused with the Kelvin timeline movies.) The producers of DSC care, but either they can’t seem to get it “right” enough to please the fans of this BBS, or they’ve decided to throw up their arms in defeat and ‘reboot’ the show into the far future so that they don’t have to worry about canon anymore (although how that’s going to affect the Section 31 show is a mystery to me.)
I wish they'd just have set it in the far future in the first place. This is what a lot of fans wanted and it would have avoided all sorts of problems.
 
And would have created lots of other problems. The production team has not been perfect, I'll grant that. But thinking that the only options are "they don't care" or "they are just fucking with the fans" is a level of negativity that blows my mind.

The simple fact of the matter is production teams do not have the time nor the inclination to obsessively go over the details like fans do. It's not in their job description. Their job is produce a show, on time, and within their budget. They are also artists who want to put their own style and flair to it. And there is awareness that in this day and age production values and appearances mean lot.

So, they are given a ridiculous task, and when they fail to meet fan expectations, they are treated like garbage. Why in the world would they care about fan opinion at this point?
 
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