Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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So I guess that probably means this will be a comedy.
Do her comics tend to be comedies?
Oh, yes, ever since John Byrne wrote She-Hulk in the '80s. Under Byrne, she constantly broke the fourth wall in the same way Deadpool is known for today -- aware that she was in a comic book, talking to the readers, and playing with tropes -- e.g. changing scenes by stepping across panel boundaries, or explaining that her underwear never ripped off in a fight because it was protected by the Comics Code seal. Once she fled from a bad guy by ripping through the page, crossing the back-issues ad over the next 2-page spread (with lots of gag titles in the fine print), and then tearing through to the next page after that. Also her villains and guest heroes tended to be Z-list characters that were hard to take seriously.
I think later writers haven't used her "comics awareness" the same way, but her series is still known for humor.
She hasn't been exclusively comedic, I don't think, but for a very long stretch she could very easily have been described as a more deadpoolesque character than a hulkesque one. Right down to breaking the fourth wall to joke with the audience.
And even when she wasn't necessarily a 'comedic' character, she was, I believe, always distinguished from her cousin by being the 'hulk' who embraces her powers and openly enjoys them and enjoys her life - so it would pretty much always have to be a reasonably upbeat show. Which in mcu terms, definitely means plenty of jokes.
True.
I'll never be able to unsee this.
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Yeah, because only actors that make shitty arthouse movies for film snobs deserve awards for acting
As for She-Hulk, my favorite Marvel hero has had at the very least humorous elements in most of her various series since John Byrne's run. Unfortunately, right now in the comics she is literally just the 60s Hulk except she's a woman, but before Civil War 2 completely ruined the character she'd generally been a more laid back Hulk with humorous elements to her adventures (although not outright comedy all the time). I hope that's what they go with for the show, not the current "Stupid brute" She-Hulk of the last few years.
The thing about She-Hulk, is that it could be primarily a legal show--I'm actually expecting something along the lines of an MCU version of Boston Legal.
If they bring back Daredevil in any form, I see that fitting more to the Boston Legal mold. I don't want She-Hulk to ignore the fact that Jen is a lawyer, but I would like that show to be a little more whimsical and superhero-y.
Actors who put out outstanding and extraordinary performance deserve awards, no matter what the the film. Can't say anyone in Endgame achieved that. They all did good jobs (I watched it earlier today) but nothing outstanding or extraordinary.Yeah, because only actors that make shitty arthouse movies for film snobs deserve awards for acting
Yeah, because only actors that make shitty arthouse movies for film snobs deserve awards for acting
Thinking it's a binary system where something's either an action thriller or arthouse is probably another indication that someone's horizons end at action thrillers. Nothing wrong with that, of course. Like what you like, and more power to you for it. But awards are going to search broader than that.
Precisely.
Agreed and I say that as someone who thought Michael B. Jordan deserved an Oscar nomination for Black Panther. Robert Downey Jr. is the closest person to maybe deserving a nod but even he thinks he doesn't deserve it.
The people who deserve praise the most are usually the ones who insist they deserve it the least.
RDJ doesn't need the Oscars. He won best male movie star in The People's Choice Awards today (and thanked Stan Lee in his acceptance speech). In my opinion, The People's Choice Awards is the one to win because that's decided by the fans and not a bunch of snooty movie snobs.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicb...wins-males-movie-star-2019-acceptance-speech/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicb...wins-males-movie-star-2019-acceptance-speech/
Oh, come on, this is pathetic excuse making. The Oscars are the narrowest awards ever. Almost everything is awarded to a shitty arthouse (or, sometimes, moderately high budget but still artsy drama) movie that the vast majority of people never even heard of, and if they did it was from a commercial. The scar voters are almost all a homogeneous group of (generally old) film snobs. Sure, you'll get a Return of the King every few decades that even the Oscars has to reluctantly give a big award to, but generally speaking only very specific types of movies made in very specific ways get the big awards. The biggest question is generally, to use last year as an example, whether the shitty arthouse movie about fish fucking can beat the shitty arthouse film about a fasion designer or the shitty drama film about a woman renting billboards.
Also, using "horizons" like that is so film snobby that I'm starting to wonder if Martin Scorsese is posting here under a pseudonym. The vast majority of people don't like or give a single shit about most arthouse films, and the academy award for best picture generally goes to movies that the general audience not only doesnt give a shit about, but probably didn't even know existed. Not watching that shit just means you're like 90+% mof people that watch movies.
Also, if you think all comicbook movies are just action thrillers, or that action thrillers are in any way inferior to arthouse crap, well you might just be the director of a piece of shit film starring Robert deniro as a psycho cabbie, either that or a gigantic film snob.
I don't think you understand what you are talking about here. The Oscars rarely award actual "art" films--most are films distributed to major studios because they have the money to pay for the campaigns necessary to get nominations and wins.
All of this is simply untrue. Go look up a list of previous Oscar winners. Plenty of them aren't the biggest movies in the world, but to say it's a list dominated by obscure art films or even unpopular ones is just plain wrong.
Nobody's going to pretend the awards don't have their obvious biases. But I'll point out that if on rare occasions a Return of the King wins, they are *still* being less narrow in their tastes than the guy dismissing whole genres as "shitty."
And you'd do a better job convincing people you don't believe in the binary if you didn't keep defaulting back to it in your arguments.
I do not think that about comic book movies. I don't even think that's necessarily true of superhero movies -- who do I have to kill to get an ASTRO CITY film? -- though it has been true of all the big ones so far. But we were specifically talking about Endgame.