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"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW

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Supergirl is the 3rd-highest rated series currently airing on The CW in terms of DVR and LIVE+ ratings; its same-day ratings may be down from where they were when the series moved from CBS, but since the network has prioritized DVR and LIVE+ ratings over same-day ratings for several years now, how it performs on Sunday nights is of very little actual importance in determining its continued longevity.
 
That changes nothing. An opinion based on an assumption of information to which you couldn't possibly have knowledge is not a fact.

But that's neither here nor there. Television is a very fickle business. And there are other corporate interests at play beyond just the network. As such, it isn't nearly out of the realm of possibility that, should COIE end up being a critical flop, a massive overhaul of the entire franchise could become reality.
 
Well the american way, was in a general sense to me, do good,.. Like captain america, moral compass that points north and doing what needs to be done. Now America as a reality is a cluster f÷#! .. But Superman always been to me an ideal. Someone we could look up to to do the right yheing, be the best of us. #1 boy Scout. Because he could be the ultimate despot..
 
Supergirl is the 3rd-highest rated series currently airing on The CW in terms of DVR and LIVE+ ratings; its same-day ratings may be down from where they were when the series moved from CBS, but since the network has prioritized DVR and LIVE+ ratings over same-day ratings for several years now, how it performs on Sunday nights is of very little actual importance in determining its continued longevity.

Supergirl's ratings are 6th out of 12 CW shows in the 18-49 demographic, 4th in total viewers. It's one of the lowest rated shows on TV, down 22% from just last year. It barely gets over 1 million watching. It doesn't say much comparing it to other CW shows, but it's nothing special even under that very low standard.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/cw-2019-20-season-ratings/

Well the american way, was in a general sense to me, do good,.. Like captain america, moral compass that points north and doing what needs to be done. Now America as a reality is a cluster f÷#! .. But Superman always been to me an ideal. Someone we could look up to to do the right yheing, be the best of us. #1 boy Scout. Because he could be the ultimate despot..

All of the above. The American way though is treated like a curse to some writers. Hopefully not on this show.
 
You can't do ,the American way if Trump is still president. I don't mind if they bring it back later after we fix some problems in the country. Jason
 
Yep. It takes two to argue. Whining about Trump has nothing to do with Superman. Or Supergirl, unless you're the writers.
You don't get to talk, since as I noted above, you're the one who usually goes there first. But the shitstorm had finally died down, and it would be nice if it stayed that way.
 
You don't get to talk, since as I noted above, you're the one who usually goes there first. But the shitstorm had finally died down, and it would be nice if it stayed that way.

There's that tolerance! Silence anyone who disagrees with you and says things you don't want to hear!
 
Supergirl's ratings are 6th out of 12 CW shows in the 18-49 demographic, 4th in total viewers. It's one of the lowest rated shows on TV, down 22% from just last year. It barely gets over 1 million watching. It doesn't say much comparing it to other CW shows, but it's nothing special even under that very low standard.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/cw-2019-20-season-ratings/
It's about on par with Riverdale, which no one is suggesting cancelling. It's still getting twice the numbers Dynasty is getting. And all CW shows are one of the lowest rated shows on network TV - Supergirl handily beats all new shows on Freeform, FXX, Syfy, TV Land, and WGN America. Meanwhile, the CW's highest rated show, The Flash, can't even beat Will & Grace and has less than half the total viewers of the lowest rated show on CBS (SWAT). Any CW show would get cancelled on any of the other networks. The CW thus has to operate differently, which they have through their deal with Netflix. If anything, that Netflix deal is what will drive cancellations. The sooner those shows end, the sooner the contract with Netflix ends, and Warner Brothers can get their shows back and put them on HBOMax.
 
Now America as a reality is a cluster f÷#! ..

It has always been a f-ed up country, with periods so dark that the present day looks like a vacation at Disneyland by comparison. The point of Superman's moral is that no matter what goes on across this nation, he is above it all, and unlike humans, never resorts to the petty, manipulative nature of too many people.

. #1 boy Scout.

Yes.

Supergirl's ratings are 6th out of 12 CW shows in the 18-49 demographic, 4th in total viewers. It's one of the lowest rated shows on TV, down 22% from just last year. It barely gets over 1 million watching. It doesn't say much comparing it to other CW shows, but it's nothing special even under that very low standard.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/cw-2019-20-season-ratings/

True. You cannot spin a negative rating into a positive without a level of hand waving that would make every arm in the country fall off from the stress.

They'll probably cancel both Legends of Tomorrow and Black Lightning before they'd cancel Supergirl.

In Black Lightning's case, that would be unfortunate, as its the jewel in the DC-TV crown, superior across the board.
 
Supergirl's ratings are 6th out of 12 CW shows in the 18-49 demographic, 4th in total viewers. It's one of the lowest rated shows on TV, down 22% from just last year. It barely gets over 1 million watching. It doesn't say much comparing it to other CW shows, but it's nothing special even under that very low standard.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/cw-2019-20-season-ratings/

You're talking about LIVE same-day ratings; I wasn't.

Supergirl is a massive success in terms of the DVR and Live+ ratings that The CW now prioritizes over the LIVE same-day ratings system that most of the other networks - both cable and broadcast - are still using.

IYou cannot spin a negative rating into a positive without a level of hand waving that would make every arm in the country fall off from the stress.

Supergirl's ratings are only a negative if you continue to think in terms of "same day ratings being the only thing that matters", which The CW has moved away from in recent years.

I would also point out that The CW has been actively promoting 'next day streaming' in many of its ads, which further illustrates that they're prioritizing other things over same-day LIVE viewership.
 
Oh, for Christ's sweet sake, you incredible bozo. I just asked Jason to cool it, too, so this is a politically neutral request to STFU.

What a wonderful way of words you have! So classy. So tolerant.

The irony is that my complaints about Supergirl is that it has too much politics and I would like them to lay off. That's my complaint. I want the show to be apolitical. Same with Superman. If your hatred of politics on this board is any indication, maybe you want that too.

It's about on par with Riverdale, which no one is suggesting cancelling. It's still getting twice the numbers Dynasty is getting. And all CW shows are one of the lowest rated shows on network TV - Supergirl handily beats all new shows on Freeform, FXX, Syfy, TV Land, and WGN America. Meanwhile, the CW's highest rated show, The Flash, can't even beat Will & Grace and has less than half the total viewers of the lowest rated show on CBS (SWAT). Any CW show would get cancelled on any of the other networks. The CW thus has to operate differently, which they have through their deal with Netflix. If anything, that Netflix deal is what will drive cancellations. The sooner those shows end, the sooner the contract with Netflix ends, and Warner Brothers can get their shows back and put them on HBOMax.

Well, comparing a show to a worse show doesn't make that show a ratings winner. The bottom line though is that Supergirl's decline has been tremendous in recent years. And I'm not talking Season 1 to Season 2. That would be unfair. I'm talking since it moved to CW. Season 4 was down about 31% from Season 3 in the 18-49 demographic. Season 5 is down about 27% from Season 4. By contrast, Flash is only down about 13.5%.

In total viewers the declining viewers, it's a little closer though Supergirl is still declining more rapidly, and Flash year to year, has actually gained viewers over the last 2 weeks from the same week in 2018.

Being on CW is the only reason any of these shows remain on the air, but Supergirl's decline has been very rapid and very large.

The point of Superman's moral is that no matter what goes on across this nation, he is above it all, and unlike humans, never resorts to the petty, manipulative nature of too many people.
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Exactly. This show shouldn't be political at all. I hope there is a somewhat universal ideal of good and bad in this country, and Superman should stick to that. An innocent is in trouble, Superman helps. There is a global threat, Superman helps. Superman will take punishment first because he feels he can take it better than anyone else. Superman loves the people. The people love Superman.

In Black Lightning's case, that would be unfortunate, as its the jewel in the DC-TV crown, superior across the board.

I will concede that Black Lightning is doing worse than Supergirl and probably would be canceled first.

The CW DCU needs a bit of a shot in the arm I think. I'm glad Superman is being made, but it really needs a creative team independent of Supergirl. I like that they have Geoff Johns and some of The Flash's team. I will watch with interest.
 
Well, comparing a show to a worse show doesn't make that show a ratings winner. The bottom line though is that Supergirl's decline has been tremendous in recent years. And I'm not talking Season 1 to Season 2. That would be unfair. I'm talking since it moved to CW. Season 4 was down about 31% from Season 3 in the 18-49 demographic. Season 5 is down about 27% from Season 4. By contrast, Flash is only down about 13.5%.

In total viewers the declining viewers, it's a little closer though Supergirl is still declining more rapidly, and Flash year to year, has actually gained viewers over the last 2 weeks from the same week in 2018.

Being on CW is the only reason any of these shows remain on the air, but Supergirl's decline has been very rapid and very large.
Supergirl has also aired in three different timeslots across two networks while The Flash has not moved at all. That has an impact on live viewership. Meanwhile, overall live viewership has gone down 27% from 2016 to 2018 (http://www.insideradio.com/free/of-...cle_e192de86-2458-11e9-8135-5775f5c489bd.html). The old rules for renewal and cancellation of a show based purely on ratings no longer apply. You're just going to have to live with the fact that Supergirl will be back next season.
 
My guess is that the Canaries (female) replace Arrow (male) and Superman (male) replaces Supergirl (female) keeping the demos the same.
 
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