One of the science officers state it during the short.
Larkin specifically states that they breed slowly, in the briefing room scene.
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One of the science officers state it during the short.
Larkin specifically states that they breed slowly, in the briefing room scene.
After Larkin messed with them and they were being "plentiful".
I don't realistically see how Edward's tribbles could replace the entire species, much less be the same ones from the TOS episode.
Which we know is not true, per "The Breach" (ENT) (also, see above).
In Larkin's defense, he was an idiot.
Maybe "slow breeding" is a comparison to other similar species' in general.
Maybe "slow breeding" is a comparison to other similar species' in general.
Preventable? Maybe, maybe not. But it should've played out differently with the crew already aware of the dangers that Tribbles pose.
I gave the short an 8/10, I stand by it as it was good fun. That doesn't mean they took even a moment to figure out how this would fit together with "The Trouble with Tribbles".
It fits very well if y9ou believe the Federation covered the whole incident up - and further altered records to make it appear Tribbles were ALWAYS a fast breeding species (no genetic manipulation with Human DNA involved) on what was a Predator filled environment.
It fits very well if y9ou believe the Federation covered the whole incident up - and further altered records to make it appear Tribbles were ALWAYS a fast breeding species (no genetic manipulation with Human DNA involved) on what was a Predator filled environment.
Except that Dr. Phox had fast-breeding tribbles a century before Edward's experiments.
Well, in re-watching it, the Captain WAS at fault for just not taking the Bull by the horns as she was told "In a few hours..." - so she did have time to make the hard choice (like getting everyone in spacesuits, or in a shuttle and fully decompressing the ship, or using phasers to start disintegrating all the Tribbles as opposed to trying to stun and collect them all.)
hell, in "The Trouble With Tribbles", Mr. Sott's and Spock's solution probably lead to the death of every Tribble beamed into the Klingon battlecruiser's Engine Room. Yes, they didn't beam them directly into space; but in the end, the result of what they did wwill have the same result.
So yeah, IF she'd acted faster and made the hard (but correct if you want to save the ship and the idiot Edward) choice, the Cabott would still be around for her to command.
So she never thought of beaming all of the tribbles into space?
They did say the Transporter was damaged (by Tribbles) offline and would take a day to repair.
Yes, very much. As an audience, we cannot say weather she as a captain was at fault for not reacting, or weather she acted correctly and had no choice. The short simply didn't tell us enough about her.
The only thing we know is Larkin's idiocy, but not weather it was the only reason for the disaster, or just the final straw in a dysfunctional system.
That's because this episode really wasn't about that. It was about trying to be funny. If you find it funny - it succeeded. If not, all the other cracks become visible.
Personally, I just think (like most previous short Trek's) that this story was a bad fit for a short, and should either have been a real episode or a b-plot in another one. Because this was a fully fledged story. And 10 minutes simply are to short for that, there's too much information missing.
Instead these shorts work much, much better when it's essentially extended scenes, like Mudds caper, or two characters stuck in a turbolift.
Instead these shorts work much, much better when it's essentially extended scenes, like Mudds caper, or two characters stuck in a turbolift.
More or less the same thing as ever, I suppose...
"Oh look, (s)he's/they're/you're/we're/I'm wearing a different uniform variant!"
(Continued below...)
(Continued from above...)
(Apologies for the image-heavy posts. It's still scarcely an exhaustive exhibit—doesn't even cover the variation in Admirals' uniforms in early TNG, etc—but surely more than enough to make a point.)
(Apologies for the image-heavy posts. It's still scarcely an exhaustive exhibit—doesn't even cover the variation in Admirals' uniforms in early TNG, etc—but surely more than enough to make a point.)
Could be; you're right about these tribbles breeding faster then any we've seen before. That said, it really sounds like the filmmakers forgot or chose to ignore that the canon had already established that tribbles are naturally fast breeders. Whether that was an acceptable decision for the sake of the story or not is textbook YMMV.
Well, in "The Breach" (ENT), Phlox said they were "prodigious" breeders, not specifically fast.
Also, much may hinge on Edward's emphasis of "this particular species" in his comments here. Perhaps meaty-but-slow-to-multiply-and-easily-harmed Tribleustes ventricosus is a dying breed on Iota Geminorum IV, being rapidly or gradually crowded out by Polygeminus grex and any number of other varieties—cf. ants, frogs, et al.—and falling victim to the very same abundance of predators that the latter evolved their quicker and/or more robust reproductive capabilities as a survival mechanism against in the first place?
Remember, Larkin both has a specific agenda...and is an idiot. (Who knows if the cause to which he shruggingly ascribes the effect observed—what else but the contribution of his own DNA—is even the true one?) Further, recall what happened to Cyrano Jones when he tried to have his small-but-fast-breeding tribbles genetically tinkered with in an effort to stop them from reproducing in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" (TAS)...he (temporarily) wound up with super-extra-meaty ones!
Weird alien shit be weird.
Also, much may hinge on Edward's emphasis of "this particular species" in his comments here. Perhaps meaty-but-slow-to-multiply-and-easily-harmed Tribleustes ventricosus is a dying breed on Iota Geminorum IV, being rapidly or gradually crowded out by Polygeminus grex and any number of other varieties—cf. ants, frogs, et al.—and falling victim to the very same abundance of predators that the latter evolved their quicker and/or more robust reproductive capabilities as a survival mechanism against in the first place?
Remember, Larkin both has a specific agenda...and is an idiot. (Who knows if the cause to which he shruggingly ascribes the effect observed—what else but the contribution of his own DNA—is even the true one?) Further, recall what happened to Cyrano Jones when he tried to have his small-but-fast-breeding tribbles genetically tinkered with in an effort to stop them from reproducing in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" (TAS)...he (temporarily) wound up with super-extra-meaty ones!
Weird alien shit be weird.
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Well, in "The Breach" (ENT), Phlox said they were "prodigious" breeders, not specifically fast.
Also, much may hinge on Edward's emphasis of "this particular species" in his comments here. Perhaps meaty-but-slow-to-multiply-and-easily-harmed Tribleustes ventricosus is a dying breed on Iota Geminorum IV, being rapidly or gradually crowded out by Polygeminus grex and any number of other varieties—cf. ants, frogs, et al.—and falling victim to the very same abundance of predators that the latter evolved their quicker and/or more robust reproductive capabilities as a survival mechanism against in the first place?
Remember, Larkin both has a specific agenda...and is an idiot. (Who knows if the cause to which he shruggingly ascribes the effect observed—what else but the contribution of his own DNA—is even the true one?) Further, recall what happened to Cyrano Jones when he tried to have his small-but-fast-breeding tribbles genetically tinkered with in an effort to stop them from reproducing in "More Tribbles, More Troubles" (TAS)...he (temporarily) wound up with super-extra-meaty ones!
Weird alien shit be weird.
Somehow I'm pretty sure I would have found that episode a lot funnier if it weren't multiplying Tribbles, but insanely growing BIG godzilla tribbles!
At least that would have been a new joke (at least for live action...). Also, can we have a shrinking episode with modern cgi at some point please?
You know, despite me finding "Beyond" pretty bland - these goddamn jackets are some of my absolute favourite Trek costumes! I really, really love them.
Because, goddamn, it just makes so much sense to put a jacket on before going outside! And they just look so goddamn' cool.
They also very positively remind me of the "the cage" jackets:
ENT kinda' had that too with their leather uniform jackets (seen in the pilot) ((ENT had some of the best uniforms and production design in general)).
Trek really should reintroduce those or similar ones.
Random aside: those shoulders always screamed cheesy futurism to me. They kind of look like they came right out of Futurama, and TUC was eight years prior to Futurama.
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