Spoilers The Flash - Season 6
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Except that Barry's Doctor Strange-style vision of alternate futures confirms that it is Barry himself who has to die to save the multiverse. (Although I suppose it could be a time remnant of Barry, like Savitar.)
I don't think it's the only reason they could be doing it, it could just be an excuse to bring characters from a bunch of different universes together.
We still can. Time travel anthing could lead them to doing a two parter on Supergirl. Jason
That was the best acting I've seen from Martin in a long long time. I almost teared up at the end.
I hope they follow through with Ramsey because they have made it pretty cool so far. Unfortunately, it's how they finish and the last couple of years how they've finished hasn't been all that great.
I hope they follow through with Ramsey because they have made it pretty cool so far. Unfortunately, it's how they finish and the last couple of years how they've finished hasn't been all that great.
This half of the season's villain is officially the worst one, I'd rather have cicada back. But, as with last season, the good character stuff and the plot that isn't focused on the main villain is more then good enough to make up for a completely uninteresting, or in this case actually kind of irritating, main villain.
Barry relocates to the future and gives Thawne an origin. We have known this since season 1, and the 80s when it happened exactly the same in the comic.
Iris and Barry are in baby mode.
They are trying to make Nora.
What they're going to get is Don and Dawn, the Torpedo Twins, because Nora is an abomination.
Although, they know when Nora is born, and they know when Nora was conceived, which is well after Crisis.
Only Barry is in baby mode, filling up a 40 gallon oil barrel with supersonic sploge, for Iris to use leasurely in the future, after Barry is dead during Nora's conception date.
Time travelling villains will be on a scavenger hunt to derail the insemination, which is why they need way too much goop, hidden all over the world.
Iris and Barry are in baby mode.
They are trying to make Nora.
What they're going to get is Don and Dawn, the Torpedo Twins, because Nora is an abomination.
Although, they know when Nora is born, and they know when Nora was conceived, which is well after Crisis.
Only Barry is in baby mode, filling up a 40 gallon oil barrel with supersonic sploge, for Iris to use leasurely in the future, after Barry is dead during Nora's conception date.
Time travelling villains will be on a scavenger hunt to derail the insemination, which is why they need way too much goop, hidden all over the world.
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The climax was weak. Either Flash or Frost could've easily stopped Ramsey before he killed that guy.
For that matter, there were a lot of plot holes. Like, why were they so quick to trust "Nash" Wells about the healing serum? They only had his word that it was stolen Dominator tech or that it would do what he said. And when Barry gave it to Ramsey, he didn't bother to tell him to keep it refrigerated, which was so important earlier. (Plus nobody had any problems holding a freezing-cold metal cylinder in their bare hands.) And in the climax, Flash didn't disguise his voice from Ramsey and openly acknowledged recognizing him and knowing what happened between him and Barry, yet Ramsey somehow didn't recognize him as Barry.
Also, about Barry picking Cisco as the new team leader... Hasn't Iris been the team leader for years now? For that matter, hasn't the team already been through moving on after Barry's "death" once or twice already?
For that matter, there were a lot of plot holes. Like, why were they so quick to trust "Nash" Wells about the healing serum? They only had his word that it was stolen Dominator tech or that it would do what he said. And when Barry gave it to Ramsey, he didn't bother to tell him to keep it refrigerated, which was so important earlier. (Plus nobody had any problems holding a freezing-cold metal cylinder in their bare hands.) And in the climax, Flash didn't disguise his voice from Ramsey and openly acknowledged recognizing him and knowing what happened between him and Barry, yet Ramsey somehow didn't recognize him as Barry.
Also, about Barry picking Cisco as the new team leader... Hasn't Iris been the team leader for years now? For that matter, hasn't the team already been through moving on after Barry's "death" once or twice already?
Agreed. It would make sense if Barry was looking for a super powered successor as Team Lead and Cisco still was Vibe. But he is not.
Nice to see Oliver questioning the Monitor Barry should be more. He has dealt with so many strangers with warnings that are later lies.
Nice to see Oliver questioning the Monitor Barry should be more. He has dealt with so many strangers with warnings that are later lies.
It is a bit annoying that both The Flash and Arrow are simultaneously doing "the hero is preparing for his inevitable death in the Crisis" arcs and yet Oliver and Barry aren't comparing notes at all. As Diggle said, this is the ultimate "all hands on deck" situation, so they should've already called all the heroes they know and begun working on a plan. And the whole reason Oliver made his deal with the Monitor was to save Barry (and Kara)! So that's already been reneged on. That's something Oliver should be aware of.
I believe the deal was made to save Barry and Kara from death when they did what they both did to save the Multiverse at the end of the Elseworlds saga. So, no, the Monitor didn't reneg on anything.
Ding, ding, ding!
I've posted the same in detail several times, but since Christopher had a snit fit a while back and put me on "Ignore," he keeps posting the same inaccurate thing.
Only in the most legalistic way. The Monitor still knew that Barry would die in the Crisis a year later, so he misrepresented the nature of the deal when he offered it to Oliver. A lie of omission is still a lie. Again, the only reason Oliver is doing Mar Novu's bidding is because he believes it saves Barry, and that is an incorrect belief that Novu is exploiting. These guys really need to touch base more often.
Um..Oliver is doing the Monitor's bidding because he believes it will save the rest of the Multiverse. That's pretty clear after he saw one multiverse get obliterated as he left it. Clark told them all he opened the Book saw Barry and Kara die when pulling off their final actions in the Elseworlds story. Oliver went to the Monitor and made the deal so that they would not have that particular fate. As to what the actual deal was - we (the audience) don't really know yet.
Edited to Change: I typed 'Barry' above originally, when I meant to say 'Oliver'. (brain fart)
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Yep. Again, Oliver's bargain was so Barry and Kara wouldn't die that day. He didn't believe, and had no reason to believe, it meant they would never die.
I'm not talking about Barry's motivation, I'm talking about Oliver's.
Yes, we do. We were told that in last season's Arrow finale, and it's driven the entire Arrow season so far. The deal is that Oliver does the Monitor's bidding and gathers the items that Novu sends him to obtain.
Yeah, that bit bugged me too. I thought for a second that maybe Ramsey knew he was The Flash, but I don't remember him finding out.
Yeah, the deal was just to stop them from dying during Elseworlds, it had nothing to do with the Crisis.
The stuff with all of the different characters dealing with Barry's coming death was good. I was a little surprised by Barry choosing Cisco as their leader, but I don't think he'd be a bad choice.
The stuff with Ramsay was pretty good too, his "blood brothers and sisters" were appropriately creepy for a pre-Holloween episode.
It did bug me a bit that we kept seeing people grab a container that was supposedly -15 degrees.