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"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW

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Oh, my God, I just realized, with Supergirl basically putting her secret identity on her Instagram profile, even though the show loved adapting STAS, they blew their limited window to do "The Late Mr. Kent" since no one who cared about Kara would think she was actually dead. We might get that one! Though it'd lose a lot of emotional oomph taking place after Lois knows, never mind them being together. Maybe a flashback episode?
 
Nowhere near half, sorry. A tiny number, no matter how many of them Twitter Outrage themselves half to death over Supergirl not being treated as Superman's inferior.

Again, you don't seem to get that the writers represent the extreme left, not the vast majority of the country, and I think that's reflected in the ratings.

You seem to be on the left. Think about political conversations with conservatives. Do you enjoy them?

If the answer is no, then maybe you can relate to people not enjoying politics on superhero shows.

Superman is my favorite superhero. I hate the idea of the character being used to promote politics. That's not entertainment. They severely hurt Supergirl by doing that, and objectively, the ratings stink.

If they go that same route with Superman, it will be even worse because he is so iconic.

Superman is going to start off very strong. I predict significantly higher ratings than Batwoman. The real question is the direction and tone. If they treat the show like Flash, which is not political and focuses on the stories, they will be fine.

I would absolutely love seeing some sort of story with Darkseid, built up the same way they did on TAS.

And I hope that if there is some sort of massive world threatening issue, Supergirl shows up. Unlike the Supergirl writers, I don't feel threatened by the existence of another hero. I would love it if Supergirl shows up a few times a year as a supporting character, and vice versa.

If Darkseid leads an army into Metropolis, even if Superman is fighting the big bad guy, there are TONS of enemies that could keep the whole Justice League busy.
 
Very exciting news. The Man of Steel has always fared beter on TV to in the movies.


Question is how will this differ to other Superman series? Will there me an element of otuer space stuff? Even Supergirl has been cited as basically a Superman show but with Kara instead of Clark.


Also casting - no doubt we'll meet Perry White and there will be other recurring characters - maybe some wll crossover from Supergirl? Are we getting Superman v Lex? Also a huge tradition is veteran Superman stars coming back in new roles, although many have appaeared in Arrowverse already, Marc McClure and the two Superboys are people who I can think of who haven't
 
Question is how will this differ to other Superman series?

Well, the most obvious difference is that it starts later in Clark/Superman's career with Clark and Lois as a married couple with a son. So it'll probably draw more on what the modern comics have done with the characters and their family life.
 
Very exciting news. The Man of Steel has always fared beter on TV to in the movies.

Er...no. With the exception of the "Timmverse" cartoons, and arguably the 80s Ruby-Spears cartoon, Superman has been mishandled from one extreme to another. Reeve and Cavill captured the mix of the powerful alien outsider / awkward Kent side trying to find his place in ways lost on the often terrible TV shows' actors.
 
My vote is Bruce Campbell as Perry White or the actor who played Cornel Tigh on Galatica. Jason
 
My vote is Bruce Campbell as Perry White or the actor who played Cornel Tigh on Galatica. Jason
You really want a 70-year-old man (Michael Hogan) playing Perry White?

I get that the character should be older, but not geriatric.

Even 61 years old (Bruce Campbell) seems way too old for the character.
 
Lane Smith was 61 in the final year of Lois & Clark. Since this version of Lois and Clark have already had years-long careers as star reporters (and Superman), are married, and have a toddler, 60-70 seems pretty on point.
 
You really want a 70-year-old man (Michael Hogan) playing Perry White?

I get that the character should be older, but not geriatric.

Even 61 years old (Bruce Campbell) seems way too old for the character.
What's wrong with being old? Jason
 
What's wrong with being old? Jason
There's nothing wrong with being old, but you don't want to cast a role so old that the person cast can't actually perform.

And while 61 isn't all that old relatively speaking, I just don't picture a modern version of Perry White being quite that age.
 
Lane Smith was 61 in the final year of Lois & Clark. Since this version of Lois and Clark have already had years-long careers as star reporters (and Superman), are married, and have a toddler, 60-70 seems pretty on point.

Yes, exactly my thinking. The Superman of Earth-38 has been active for something like two decades already. We're way, way past the usual time frame of Superman stories. Cat Grant, who's played by a 55-year-old actress, was Perry White's assistant at the Planet when she started out, and Perry was said to have a long, successful career as an investigative journalist before then. So Perry should logically be in his 70s by now.
 
^ There's no evidence that Calista was 'playing her own age' in Supergirl; in fact, what we know about Cat as a character heavily suggests that she's no older than her early 40s.
 
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Question is how will this differ to other Superman series? Will there me an element of otuer space stuff? Even Supergirl has been cited as basically a Superman show but with Kara instead of Clark.

Well, if you think about it, when was the last time we had a real Superman show? Superboy? And would that count given that he was Superboy and hadn't met Lois yet? The only actual Superman show, which featured Clark Kent and where Superman was the focus was the 1950s show if you think about it, at least in live action.

I would argue that this show would be different by focusing on Superman. But I don't think that's the route. I think that this show will feature a good relationship between Clark and Jon--at least that is what I hope for. Jon's existence brings a new aspect to his life. He has to pass down all the good he learned from his own father, while teaching the responsibility of being a superhero. Jon will have a lot to deal with too.

Superman being a great hero should absolutely matter and he should continue to fight the neverending battle and inspire. He needs to be optimistic and caring and loved by the people of Metropolis while being very high profile. But that genuine goodness must also be shown in his ability to parent.

As for who could be Perry White, that's interesting too. I would have Perry White in his late 50s. Superman has been active for awhile but not like 25 years or anything like that. Probably about 15 years in.
 
Superman has been active for awhile but not like 25 years or anything like that. Probably about 15 years in.

Tyler's Superman is 40 years old in-universe, so, yes, he's been active for at least 2 decades.

However, I still think a Perry White in his 60s is a little too old for a modern take on the character.
 
Well, if you think about it, when was the last time we had a real Superman show? Superboy? And would that count given that he was Superboy and hadn't met Lois yet? The only actual Superman show, which featured Clark Kent and where Superman was the focus was the 1950s show if you think about it, at least in live action.
Um... Lois and Clark, The New Adventures of Superman? It had both Superman and Clark Kent right there in the title.
 
Tyler's Superman is 40 years old in-universe, so, yes, he's been active for at least 2 decades.

However, I still think a Perry White in his 60s is a little too old for a modern take on the character.

I think they need to avoid casting someone infirm (so as to avoid the Harris/Gambon scenario from the HP films, but there's plenty of examples of older actor that are still up for regular gigs (Sir Patrick for instance is seventy-nine, but I wouldn't call him geriatric and Sly and Arnie aren't much younger and still kicking it).

Incidentally, given that the de facto age gap in the comics is about twenty years, and a sampling of past actors averages a gap of thirty to forty years between the Perry actor and the CK/Superman actor, then i'd argue that it's a disservice to the character and the history of the role to cast it as any younger than sixty for the new show.
 
Superman is my favorite superhero. I hate the idea of the character being used to promote politics.
Superman is for all intents and purposes an undocumented immigrant who uses his power for the benefit of humanity in an unselfish manner, he fights crime and corruption and helps minorites both as Superman and as Clark through his reporting. Just by existing he's political, you cannot have a politically neutral Superman because that goes against everything he stands for which is basically anti republican.
 
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