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"Superman & Lois Lane" flying to The CW

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I think I'll be much more interested if they do in fact go more of a L&C style focus and less on the superhero stuff. I just don't know how they can pull off the latter without it feeling like a tired retread. All the series now offer something different. But Flash and SG collectively fill any niche a Superman show might offer.

Plus, that's four series* about the same guy in my lifetime. (Let alone a good half-dozen films.)

*Not even counting Krypton or TAS.
 
I wonder who they'll get to play Perry White?

All I can think of for a good Superman legacy actor would be Marc Mcclure(1978 Jimmy Olsen and Dave McFly from BTTF)


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I could not be more grateful for the opportunity to tell this story, that for now shall remain a secret. But I’ve been blessed with nothing less than the most wonderful people to do it alongside of. I couldn’t ask for a better partner than @BitsieTulloch in all of this. I’ve already learned so much from her and I know that won’t stop anytime soon. So thank you @gberlanti and everyone else who brought her in as our Lois Lane. All the people behind the scenes care so much about these characters and their lives and the parts to which we’ll be speaking about, it gives me great comfort to know that they’ll steer us in the right direction. Thank you to everyone that said “yes” to this project (Warner Brothers, DC, CW). We won’t let you down. It’s going to be a grand adventure. Can’t wait to get to work!
 
Don't get me wrong, I love the character as much as anyone. 78 was my favorite movie for most of my early childhood--at least until I saw this one about some people from the future bumbling about San Francisco looking for large marine mammals.

I'm just saying that a series focusing on Clark in a post-Crisis universe hanging up his cape and being a stay-at-home dad while his buddies play hero - and all the existential drama that comes with that - presents a much more interesting story than just another low-budget CGI freak of the week series.

Plus, the out-cry over showing Clark 'relegated' to house husband while Lois continues to pursue her career would be glorious.
 
I'm trying to think which major Superman villains haven't already been used by Supergirl, with no history with Superman. Supergirl already set up Lex having a history with Clark, so he's pretty much a no brainer.
I wonder if they'd be allowed to use Darkseid, or if they'd be off limits because of the movie? If so you could probably get multiple seasons out of the conflict if you really dug deep into the mythology and included things like Intergang, and Glorius Godfrey as a set up before building up to Darkseid.
Unless I'm mistaken we haven't seen Zod or the original Brainiac on Supergirl, Mongol could also be a good choice.
 
Unless I'm mistaken we haven't seen Zod or the original Brainiac on Supergirl
Supergirl actually established in dialogue that Superman killed Zod (a most unfortunate choice on the part of the writers, especially since they've also had Kara unequivocally declare, "Superman doesn't kill").

(And before those fans come in to argue about how superstrong invulnerable flying laser-eyed aliens have to kill or it's just not "realistic" ... I'm not engaging.)
 
I was more discouraged by how white Zod couldn't be black Zod from Krypton, not that I cared for Zod all that much...

BRAINIAC ON THE OTHER HAND. :)
 
Historically, Zod has been great actors in an otherwise pretty boring character.

Supergirl actually established in dialogue that Superman killed Zod (a most unfortunate choice on the part of the writers, especially since they've also had Kara unequivocally declare, "Superman doesn't kill").

(And before those fans come in to argue about how superstrong invulnerable flying laser-eyed aliens have to kill or it's just not "realistic" ... I'm not engaging.)
I'm still trying to figure out how that even worked.

Okay. He snapped his neck. But last time I checked, Kryptonians weren't Highlanders.
 
Even though it's the same actors maybe they are from a different earth. Even Earth 1. Could recast Jimmy,Lex if they wanted. Jason
 
I'm sure they have no desire to recast Lex. In fact, I wonder if the success of Cryer's version wasn't part of what persuaded them to move forward with this series. I think he's certain to recur.
 
Supergirl actually established in dialogue that Superman killed Zod (a most unfortunate choice on the part of the writers, especially since they've also had Kara unequivocally declare, "Superman doesn't kill").

(And before those fans come in to argue about how superstrong invulnerable flying laser-eyed aliens have to kill or it's just not "realistic" ... I'm not engaging.)
I don't remember that. If it was just one quick line early in the show I could see them deciding to just ignore it, or resurrect him.
I kind of think of Lex, Zod, and Darkseid as the three core Superman villains that are almost a requirement for any modern adaptation.
Like The Joker, Penguin, Riddler, and Catwoman are for Batman. And yes I am still very disappointed we never got a Riddler in the Dark Knight Trilogy.
 
Maybe they could also use Bizaro Superman or Booster Gold or Katt or Mercy Graves. Jason
 
I am wondering if COIE is going to have something to do with altering the timeline at least. It would make sense to have Jon start the same age as he was introduced in the comics--more interesting story potential that we haven't really seen before.
 
Maybe Weird Al could reprise his seminal portrayal of Darkseid from Teen Titans Go?

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I am wondering if COIE is going to have something to do with altering the timeline at least. It would make sense to have Jon start the same age as he was introduced in the comics--more interesting story potential that we haven't really seen before.
Totally agreed. As excited as I am for this series, I don't really see how an infant or toddler is much of a story benefit -- more of a deficit, frankly. But the comics have already shown how well Superman works as the father of a child old enough to interact, contribute narratively, and have a personality of his own.
 
I don't think I could stand 30 seconds of a show with your idea of the "right writing team".

If you liked Smallville or the 1996 Superman Animated Series, then you either could, or you're not really interested in Superman. You just want MSNBC. Batwoman is more your speed.

Basically, every Superman TV show has been overall pretty good, and Supergirl was too, until they decided spewing politics and pandering while checking boxes was more important than telling actual superhero stories.

If they're still alive here, I'm thinking his Clarks parents would probably be recurring characters. Then we could have the other staff members of the Daily Planet like Ron Troupe or Steve Lombard.
As for a tech support/scientist character Emil Hamilton or John Henry Irons/Steel could be good choices. It could be an opportunity to redeem Steel after the disastrous movie.

These are good ideas. And with COIE coming, they can reset continuity and even do some recasting. What's really a shame is that they had Ron Troupe on Supergirl--he was just played by Mechad Brooks and given a different name to be woke. But that just creates the opportunity for another actor to play him.

Steve Lombard would be a terrific addition if done well. Hamilton would be a good choice too. Maggie Sawyer could be on the show too.

The key though is not quite following the pattern of the other shows. We don't need a Team Superman. Superman operates alone. Troupe and Lombard would be coworkers. So would Perry if they have him.

I don't know if I would introduce Steel in Season 1. The real question is "do you do the Doomsday story?" It goes together with Steel, and could introduce Conner Kent. Of course, that's a tough story for CW.

If this show is about Clark and Lois together, then Superman wouldn't have a Team Superman--but Clark would have his friends and family. I would love it if Jonathan and Martha were alive. That's one thing Jon Byrne did post-Crisis that was for the better. I would guess that in this version, Superman is the disguise and Clark is who he is. So when he IS vulnerable, he turns to her for support. Based on the ideas above, that could mean Hamilton for science.

Imagine COIE starting off with the Kents dead, and when it's done, Clark gets a reunion with his parents, who in the new Earth, never died. And he knows.

What I'm curious about will be how old Jon Kent will be. He should be a few months old. I wonder if they will do some rapid aging thing.

There is so much they can do and make this a good show.

But there's a lack of female characters here. Lana Lang could be included; surprisingly, she's never yet been referenced in the Arrowverse. Chloe Sullivan's a possibility (and has been established to exist on Earth-38), though maybe she's too associated with the scandals around Allison Mack. If John Henry Irons is on board, Natasha Irons could come with him. How about Kristin Wells, Elliot S! Maggin's Superwoman from the future (and a descendant of Jimmy Olsen)? Or -- ooh, how about Lori Lemaris?

Lana would be interesting, and it would be nice to see a red head play the part again. Ma Kent, Maggie Sawyer (same actress) could also work.

I'm just saying that a series focusing on Clark in a post-Crisis universe hanging up his cape and being a stay-at-home dad while his buddies play hero - and all the existential drama that comes with that - presents a much more interesting story than just another low-budget CGI freak of the week series.

If they do that, the series wouldn't work. And it goes against Clark's nature, because that man chose to be a hero. He can't sit by and let others do the work. He can't sit by and see people in danger, even super powered ones, without helping. That's why Superman exists. Having him hang up the cape goes against what the character is. Superman is supposed to inspire. That should be the character.

As for Darkseid, THAT would be very ambitious and an amazing choice for a villain.

The best Superman story I ever saw on TV was the TAS version of Darkseid. If they follow that path, we could see Clark at his most vulnerable. Darkseid can match Superman physically, but has the cruelty to hurt him mentally. You'd need some serious effects to get it right.

CW can definitely pull it off, but they would have to be very smart. That TAS story worked so well because of the writing and powerful nature of the story, not because of the things that blew up.
 
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