Poll Is Rey a Mary Sue?
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do you not know what it means when I write "on a separate note" ?
I saw it, that has nothing to do with a Mary Sue either. Just your subjective opinion that you’ve repeated for years as if it holds some authority outside your head.
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She has and she isn't.
Precisely so, though I suspect many know this.
I'll be honest it distinctly comes across as though you are trying (and rather badly failing) to intellectualise your own distaste for her. The "Mary Sue" thing has been blown out of the water and at least now you are being more honest with us and yourself.
You just don't like her.
Whether that's because she is dull, or because she's female, or simply because she isn't the Jedi you grew up with I can't say, but the idea there's some inherent problem with the character as written or portrayed hasn't been holding up for the past few years.
no i just believe she is a mary sue. But I've just stopped writing the same points over and over again.
I also believe that she is bland and uninteresting.
I also believe that she is bland and uninteresting.
I agree, It pulled me out of the movies a couple of times
yes. Agreed. Also it would be nice if anything really drove her character. if she had more than "i do the right thing" as her background. If she had some kind of character flaw. Also training. Also some kind of reason it's her.
Probably a good idea.
you are so cool. Like Fonzie.
not even one page after I was (unfairly) warned for bringing up how asinine it was to believe RJ's trilogy was still happening because (rightly so) it was unrelated to Mary Sues, this guy starts talking about something I was talking about with.. marvel.
And I get warned...
You called one poster an "idiot" and then called someone else "dence" (your spelling). On what grounds are you asserting that you were unfairly warned by the mod? That's about as clear-cut an example of flaming as you can get. My criticisms were of the content, history, and style of your posts, which is permitted. You're also not supposed to be arguing the merits of your warning in the thread but via PM with the mod in question.
never said I was unfairly warned.. i just mentioned that bringing up what I wrote in a marvel thread has nothing to do with this
You literally said you were unfairly warned in the first line of your post. I quoted it above and it's still in your original post. Then you said "And I was warned" to end your post, reiterating that you felt your warning was unfair. Jesus.
i will clarify (sorry I just woke up). I don't think them warning me for bringing up RJ's trilogy was fair. my opinion. But I can understand why they would do it. Soi I can say it was fair - or unfair.. whatever. I guess I mean I can understand why I was warned.. which is better than nothing.. I just don't agree with it.
You didn't get warned for bringing up Rian Johnson's trilogy. Why on Earth would you even think that? You got warned for calling someone an idiot and dense. Am I being Punk'd right now? This is a really simple concept. Do I need to draw a diagram for you or something?
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Did you, or did you not, call me "dence", which is possibly a close relation of "dense"?
A little?
I mean, most people who call her a Mary Sue mean it as "She is a woman who is competent and I don't like that", so definitely not in that way.
But, she did intuit over the course of a few seconds how to use the Force to plant a suggestion in somebody's mind. She's figuring out things in seconds things that are supposed to take Jedi years to learn. She's also fawned over by Finn, Han, Chewbacca and every droid. So in that sense, she is a little bit of a Mary Sue in the way Wesley is.
I mean, most people who call her a Mary Sue mean it as "She is a woman who is competent and I don't like that", so definitely not in that way.
But, she did intuit over the course of a few seconds how to use the Force to plant a suggestion in somebody's mind. She's figuring out things in seconds things that are supposed to take Jedi years to learn. She's also fawned over by Finn, Han, Chewbacca and every droid. So in that sense, she is a little bit of a Mary Sue in the way Wesley is.
I do wonder how far the remove is from the telepathy we see employed between force users (notably downplayed in the PT) and mind control. Is one an extension of the other or are they in fact one and the same with the difference being the recipients' ability to differentiate?
