Days of Future Past is superior to Endgame.

[Zenogias]

Agree completely, Endgame is super over-rated and frankly a complete letdown. Infinity War should be considered the true end to the MCU 1.0.

 

[crookeddy]

Agree completely, Endgame is super over-rated and frankly a complete letdown. Infinity War should be considered the true end to the MCU 1.0.

I am curious, given your post history, and newbie tag, are you literally only here to voice unpopular opinions...

 

[Awesome Possum]

I like both. My only issue with DOFP is that I didn’t really get as attached to the younger versions. I really love moments, like Old Xavier and Magneto regretting their conflict taking away so much time they could have spent together as friends. Most of all, it seeing Wolverine in the better future. It’s Wolverine a character who knew only pain and loss, getting a happy ending and so did the fans who first saw the early films. The school is there, Jean and Scott are back. It’s like X3 didn’t happen. It’s wonderful.

Endgame really depends on how you feel about the characters. The movie is more about putting them through an emotional rollercoaster. If you care about Iron Man bringing his surrogate son back, it’s great. It’s a more exciting film and has bigger highs like the Avengers Assemble scene which is a payoff to everything in the MCU and comic book movies in general.
So both are good in different ways.

 

[Gaith]

I'm arguing that there was no real moral choice here. It wasn't some "Kill Trask for what he's done or let him life and suffer no consequences", it was "Kill him and remove him or don't kill him but he's still ruined anyways."

Mystique obviously didn't know that was an option.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I am not into thanos who wants to conquer earth for no reason.

Well, his "reasons" were absolutely senseless, but in-universe, its never called out for being senseless and self-destructive.

DOFP is morally compelling, Endgame isn't. DOFP is a story beyond good and evil, above black and white. Endgame is pretty dense and derivate.

Predicable more than anything else regarding most of the characters' outcomes.

Now Endgame and DOFP are both marvel films, so in a way, its a win win for marvel but I hope little kids and some millennials who enjoyed Endgame , when they get older, if they are still into Marvel gets a chance to watch and appreciate a film like DOFP. Its the same thing I have said about some people who never saw Sam Raimi's Spiderman films and have only seen Homecoming and far from home that never did Spiderman real justice.

True. All of that production capital invested in the post-Raimi Spider-Man films, and the end result was the horrid Garfield movies and the bloodless MCU versions.

Sony and Fox always had their bad superhero moments but their good films like Spiderman 2 and DOFP outclasses these MCU movies that now all feel too Disney manufactured.

I would say they outclass most, save for the Captain America films, which understood why the source version was the stable heart of the Marvel printed universe that in may ways, had greater conflicts to overcome (ideologically speaking) than the vast majority of Marvel characters.

 

[Anwar]

Mystique obviously didn't know that was an option.

Then she's an idiot.

Well, his "reasons" were absolutely senseless, but in-universe, its never called out for being senseless and self-destructive.

His reasons more sense than any of Magnetos' BS.

Predicable more than anything else regarding most of the characters' outcomes

You're defining FoX-Men, not MCU.

True. All of that production capital invested in the post-Raimi Spider-Man films, and the end result was

Something more authentic to Peter's whole character than Raimi's sadsack.

I would say they outclass most

Spider-Man 2 and DOFP are loaded with plot holes and silliness, Spider-Man 2's story would be written off as fluff if it came out now.

 

[Gaith]

Then she's an idiot.

Justified fear of persecution and death has a way of blunting people's rationality.

(No need to reply to the above. You've made your perfectly valid, if wrong, preference against the movie quite clear. )

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Agree completely, Endgame is super over-rated and frankly a complete letdown.

Im not sure it overrated other than by those obsessed fans who think the MCU is some life changing experience with Endgame as the cherry on top.

Infinity War should be considered the true end to the MCU 1.0.

They would never have the guts to end a phase that way, and just toss a few merchandising options (characters) to the winds.

 

[Anwar]

They would never have the guts to end a phase that way

Oh, and DC or Fox would? Please.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Oh, and DC or Fox would? Please.

He didn't say that. You're doing that thing again. Stop it, please.

 

[crookeddy]

He didn't say that. You're doing that thing again. Stop it, please.

In this case, I do thing trek_god meant that Marvel is the most safe of the franchises, so THIS time I think Anwar's response is justified.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

He didn't say that. You're doing that thing again. Stop it, please.

Exactly. It had nothing to do with Fox or DC at all, or what they would/would not do as some imaginary contrast never made or implied, but never let a certain person pass up the chance to meltdown anytime someone makes an observation about the MCU.

 

[BillJ]

I find a nagging toothache superior to Endgame. I was really bored.

 

[JD]

Oh, and DC or Fox would? Please.

I doubt any of them would.
You really should try to tone down this whole Marvel is amazing and everything else is horrible thing, it's getting kind of ridiculous.
The MCU is one of my all time favorite franchises, but I can still acknowledge that DC, Fox, and Sony have made good movies too.

 

[Anwar]

I doubt any of them would.
You really should try to tone down this whole Marvel is amazing and everything else is horrible thing, it's getting kind of ridiculous.
The MCU is one of my all time favorite franchises, but I can still acknowledge that DC, Fox, and Sony have made good movies too.

Sure I can acknowledge it. I wouldn't mind it if the throwbacks didn't keep acting like everything DC, FoX and Sony did was Gold and most of the MCU was worthless and it hasn't made any innovations in the Genre.

 

[crookeddy]

Sure I can acknowledge it. I wouldn't mind it if the throwbacks didn't keep acting like everything DC, FoX and Sony did was Gold and most of the MCU was worthless and it hasn't made any innovations in the Genre.

None of them are as ridiculously over the top about it as you are about Marvel... You are coming off as a cartoon character at this point.

 

[Set Harth]

I'm arguing that there was no real moral choice here. It wasn't some "Kill Trask for what he's done or let him life and suffer no consequences", it was "Kill him and remove him or don't kill him but he's still ruined anyways."

No moral difference there, eh?

The mutants losing in the future world when they have weapons the Sentinels couldn't survive against.

Like what?

 

[Anwar]

No moral difference there, eh?

No. Either way he's removed from the playing field.

Like what?

Quicksilver would still be alive in the future world, there's no way the Sentinels could stop him. Nothing was stopping Xavier from finding the humans in charge and ordering them to shut down the Sentinels. There's still tons of metal around for Magneto to use against them, etc.

It's all a big plot hole.

 

[Tosk]

Logan says he "knew" Quicksilver, past tense. Considering the Sentinels can copy any power, it's a good thing Quicksilver was presumably dead.

 

[Anwar]

Logan says he "knew" Quicksilver, past tense. Considering the Sentinels can copy any power, it's a good thing Quicksilver was presumably dead.

He'd be able to destroy them before they could react. And not explaining how the mutants lost when they could overpower the Sentinels is a plot hole.