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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

A vaudeville musical number including Diana:
I went to high school with the young woman pictured in the video freeze frame of the vaudeville sketch clip. Her name was Theresa Graves. She used to sing at some point at almost every school assembly. Her TV show, Get Christie Love, was considered the first one hour drama to star a black woman (per Wiki).

Sadly, she died in 2002 at only 54.
 
^^ I think I've heard of her.

Diana & Goldie in the first segment:
I wonder if Suzanne Somers modeled Chrissy after Goldie Hawn's Laugh-In persona.

Having learned this, Ann comes up with a plan to help the brothers get back together.
The IMF could take a lesson!

When Ironside visits the awakened Barbara at the hospital, she's regained her memory of her past life with her husband and children, which I saw coming a mile away. The twist that I didn't see coming is that she no longer has any memory of her amnesia period, which includes Ironside. The Chief gracefully exits her life, leaving her none the wiser.
'tis better to have loved and lost your memory than to never have loved at all.

The first episode since July 20's historic event opens with a secret meeting between Max, 99, and the Chief on the Moon...with the premise that they've been doing this for four years, but will have to stop as more astronauts will be coming.
That's cute. :rommie:

I could save this for later, but we're getting some noteworthily coincidental TV baby business this season. I don't recall if it was set up last season, but Jim Reed's wife is also expecting at this point on Adam-12...and the Reed baby will be born the same week as I was! If I'm reading the episode descriptions right, the Smart baby is coming the week after...in a two-parter that starts the week that Baby Reed and I came into the world!
Whoa! Retro Baby Boom.

The story includes an acknowledgment of the deceased previous Mrs. Brady when Mike asks Bobby why he put his mother's picture in the drawer.
I didn't realize one of the previous spouses died. Or did they both die? Under questionable circumstances? There may be an untold Brady prequel here.

Schultz is selected to play the role of Klink...
I saw Schultz in The Saint a couple of weeks ago... playing a Holocaust survivor.

That's how they were playing it. Mellon's guilt was over having killed kids.
Wow. Serious business for 60s TV.
 
^^ I think I've heard of her.
I thought you might have had occasion to mention her... :p

I wonder if Suzanne Somers modeled Chrissy after Goldie Hawn's Laugh-In persona.
I wouldn't be surprised, now that you bring it up.

I didn't realize one of the previous spouses died. Or did they both die? Under questionable circumstances? There may be an untold Brady prequel here.
Don't think they got into what happened to Carol's husband, but if he died as well, that does strain the coincidental nature of the two semi-bunches. It did just occur to me upon reading that...maybe Martin was Carol's previous married name. If they dropped it in the episode, though, I didn't catch it.

Wow. Serious business for 60s TV.
I meant to mention that Crowe brought up a pretty legitimate criticism of Savage's bombing tactic, at a point when Savage hadn't confirmed that the error was due to damage: even if the mistake is because of a malfunction or damage, one such mistake means that the entire group drops in the wrong place.

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55th Anniversary Fly-on-the-Wall Listening

On September 30, the Beatles work on a new take of a song for which they'd done a demo months earlier:
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I thought you might have had occasion to mention her... :p
:rommie:

Don't think they got into what happened to Carol's husband, but if he died as well, that does strain the coincidental nature of the two semi-bunches.
"Coming this Christmas: Brady Bunch: Octuple Indemnity. Here's the real story...."

I meant to mention that Crowe brought up a pretty legitimate criticism of Savage's bombing tactic, at a point when Savage hadn't confirmed that the error was due to damage: even if the mistake is because of a malfunction or damage, one such mistake means that the entire group drops in the wrong place.
Yeah, it is kind of putting all the eggs in one basket.
 
50th Anniversary Album Spotlight

Green River
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Released August 3, 1969
Chart debut: September 13, 1969
Chart peak: #1, October 4 through 25, 1969
#95 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time
Wiki said:
Green River is the third studio album by American rock and roll band Creedence Clearwater Revival, released in August 1969. It was the second of three albums they released in that year, the first one being Bayou Country (their second release overall) which was released in January.


The album opens with its title track (charted Aug. 2, 1969; #2 US; #19 UK), which is vividly evocative of an actual place from Fogerty's childhood, though not on the bayou:
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John Fogerty quoted on Wiki said:
Green River is really about this place where I used to go as a kid on Putah Creek, near Winters, California. I went there with my family every year until I was ten. Lot of happy memories there. I learned how to swim there. There was a rope hanging from the tree. Certainly dragonflies, bullfrogs. There was a little cabin we would stay in owned by a descendant of Buffalo Bill Cody. That's the reference in the song to Cody Jr. The actual specific reference, "Green River," I got from a soda pop-syrup label. You used to be able to go into a soda fountain, and they had these bottles of flavored syrup. My flavor was called Green River. It was green, lime flavored, and they would empty some out over some ice and pour some of that soda water on it, and you had yourself a Green River.


Next up is the above single's swamp-rockin' B-side, "Commotion" (charted Aug. 2, 1969; #30 US)...which evokes a time and place that might understandably have one pining for those old days at Cody's drinking Green River...
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Following that is "Tombstone Shadow," a blues rocker that paints a picture of superstition-fueled pessimism.

The first side closes with "Wrote a Song for Everyone". Reportedly about Fogerty's career-fueled marital difficulties, the song paints a bleak picture of the here and now.
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Side two opens with the album's catchy advance smash hit, "Bad Moon Rising" (charted May 3, 1969; #2 US; #1 UK; #355 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time):
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"Bad Moon Rising" is notable for its jaunty, happy music juxtaposed with its dark, ominous lyrics. It was inspired by a scene in the 1941 film The Devil and Daniel Webster involving a hurricane, with John Fogerty stating that the words told of "the apocalypse that was going to be visited upon us. It wasn't until the band was learning the song that I realized the dichotomy. Here you got this song with all these hurricanes and blowing and raging ruin and all that, but...It's a happy-sounding tune, right?


This is followed, naturally enough, by the single's more fatalistically laid-back B-side, "Lodi" (charted May 3, 1969; #52 US):
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It describes the plight of a down-and-out musician whose career has landed him playing a gig in the town of Lodi (pronounced "low-die"), a small agricultural city in California's Central Valley about 70 miles from Fogerty's hometown of Berkeley. After playing in local bars, the narrator finds himself stranded and unable to raise bus or train fare to leave. Fogerty later said he had never actually visited Lodi before writing the song, and simply picked it for the song because it had "the coolest sounding name."
The song is definitely evocative of its premise, which seems to have been a "there but for the grace of God" situation for Fogerty.

The subject of "Cross-Tie Walker," earlier alluded to in the album's title track, is the life of a train-hopping hobo. Guess that's one way out of Lodi....

"Sinister Purpose" is pretty musically catchy for an obscurely placed album track.

The album closes with its only cover, "The Night Time Is the Right Time," originally recorded by Nappy Brown in 1957 and previously covered by Ray Charles in 1958.

Wiki said:
Rolling Stone called it "a great album" with the reviewer further stating "they are now creating the most vivid American rock since Music from Big Pink". AllMusic gave the album 5 stars (out of 5) with Stephen Thomas Erlewine stating: "If anything, CCR's third album Green River represents the full flower of their classic sound initially essayed on its predecessor, Bayou Country. John Fogerty has stated many times that Green River is his favorite Creedence album, telling Tom Pinnock of Uncut in 2013, "“Green River” was my favourite song from the Creedence era, because it really had the whole Sun Records vibe to me – and the album, too."

Overall a pretty good listen as it's a nice showcase of the band's distinctive sound, though its main draw remains its singles and B-sides.


Next up: Santana...maybe...if I don't get a strong hankering to skip to Abbey Road first....

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Yeah, it is kind of putting all the eggs in one basket.
Or dropping all the eggs in one basket in this case.
 
Green River
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Oh, yeah. One of my favorite bands and this album has some of their most classic material. The synergy of Fogarty's distinctive voice and individualistic guitar work adds up to something unique and beautiful and irreproducible.

Side two opens with the album's catchy advance smash hit, "Bad Moon Rising"
My favorite Creedence song. The strange elation that they feel about the coming Apocalypse was always perplexing, yet oddly compelling. :rommie:

Or dropping all the eggs in one basket in this case.
Indeed.
 
My favorite Creedence song. The strange elation that they feel about the coming Apocalypse was always perplexing, yet oddly compelling. :rommie:
It definitely makes for a good song on my Halloween playlist...which I guess I should be dusting off soonish.
 
If you're also putting together a movie watch list, it makes a memorable appearance in American Werewolf in London.
 
55 Years Ago This Week

Wiki said:
October 5
  • Twenty-three men and thirty-one women escape to West Berlin through a narrow tunnel under the Berlin Wall.
  • Elizabeth II and The Duke of Edinburgh begin an 8-day visit to Canada.
Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day said:
October 9 – Start of the Beatles' only 1964 UK tour, at the Gaumont Cinema, Bradford.
Wiki said:
October 10–24 – The 1964 Summer Olympics are held in Tokyo, Japan, the first in an Asian country.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Oh, Pretty Woman," Roy Orbison
2. "Do Wah Diddy Diddy," Manfred Mann
3. "Dancing in the Street," Martha & The Vandellas
4. "Bread and Butter," The Newbeats
5. "Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)," The Shangri-Las
6. "We'll Sing in the Sunshine," Gale Garnett
7. "It Hurts to Be in Love," Gene Pitney
8. "G.T.O.," Ronny & The Daytonas
9. "Last Kiss," J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers
10. "A Summer Song," Chad & Jeremy
11. "When I Grow Up (to Be a Man)," The Beach Boys
12. "Baby I Need Your Loving," Four Tops
13. "Funny (How Time Slips Away)," Joe Hinton
14. "Let It Be Me," Betty Everett & Jerry Butler
15. "I'm on the Outside (Looking In)," Little Anthony & The Imperials
16. "Haunted House," Jumpin' Gene Simmons
17. "You Must Believe Me," The Impressions
18. "Matchbox," The Beatles
19. "The House of the Rising Sun," The Animals
20. "Save It for Me," The Four Seasons
21. "Little Honda," The Hondells

23. "From a Window," Billy J. Kramer w/ The Dakotas
24. "Rhythm," Major Lance
25. "Slow Down," The Beatles
26. "Baby Love," The Supremes
27. "Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue)," The Temptations
28. "Out of Sight," James Brown & His Orchestra
29. "Have I the Right?," The Honeycombs
30. "Tobacco Road," The Nashville Teens

32. "Baby Don't You Do It," Marvin Gaye
33. "Ride the Wild Surf," Jan & Dean

36. "Mercy, Mercy," Don Covay & The Goodtimers
37. "Come a Little Bit Closer," Jay & The Americans
38. "Where Did Our Love Go," The Supremes

40. "I've Got Sand in My Shoes," The Drifters
41. "I Like It," Gerry & The Pacemakers

43. "I'm Crying," The Animals

47. "All Cried Out," Dusty Springfield

49. "Maybelline," Johnny Rivers
50. "A Hard Day's Night," The Beatles

52. "Everybody Knows (I Still Love You)," The Dave Clark Five

61. "I Don't Want to See You Again," Peter & Gordon

66. "You Really Got Me," The Kinks

76. "Ain't That Loving You Baby," Elvis Presley

86. "Leader of the Pack," The Shangri-Las

88. "Ask Me," Elvis Presley


Leaving the chart:
  • "Because," The Dave Clark Five (10 weeks)
  • "Everybody Loves Somebody," Dean Martin (15 weeks)
  • "Selfish One," Jackie Ross (10 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"All Cried Out," Dusty Springfield
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(Sept. 26; #41 US)

"Ask Me," Elvis Presley
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(#12 US; #10 UK)

"Ain't That Loving You Baby," Elvis Presley
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(B-side of "Ask Me"; #16 US; #15 UK)

"Leader of the Pack," The Shangri-Las
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(#1 US the week of Nov. 28, 1964; #8 R&B; #11 UK; #447 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)

Total Beatles songs on the chart: 3

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If you're also putting together a movie watch list, it makes a memorable appearance in American Werewolf in London.
Latter-day reinvention of classic horror isn't generally my thing, but remind me in 11-1/2 years and I'll consider it for 50th anniversary business. :p
 
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"All Cried Out," Dusty Springfield
Sounds nice enough, but not too memorable.

"Ask Me," Elvis Presley
Obscure Elvis.

"Ain't That Loving You Baby," Elvis Presley
More obscure Elvis.

"Leader of the Pack," The Shangri-Las
Ah, now there's an all-time classic (and, yeah, sounds like the 50s).

Latter-day reinvention of classic horror isn't generally my thing, but remind me in 11-1/2 years and I'll consider it for 50th anniversary business. :p
Interesting. After the mostly lackluster late 70s, I consider the first half of the 80s to be a bit of a Renaissance in Horror movies, TV, and literature. American Werewolf, Creepshow, Evil Dead, Tales From the Darkside, et cetera. AWIL was both a nice homage to classic Horror and a modern reinvention of it at the same time, which is something that has become increasingly rare over the years (Shape of Water is the only contemporary example that springs to mind).
 
50 Years Ago This Week

October 5
  • Monty Python's Flying Circus first airs on BBC One.
  • Sazae-san first airs on Fuji Television.
Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day said:
October 9 – Yoko enters King's College Hospital, London, after fears that she is in danger of losing another baby. John stays at her bedside throughout.
Wiki said:
October 9–12 – Days of Rage: In Chicago, the Illinois National Guard is called in to control demonstrations involving the radical Weathermen, in connection with the "Chicago Eight" Trial.



The Old Mixer is the size of a head of romaine lettuce...and he's descending....


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Sugar, Sugar," The Archies
2. "Jean," Oliver
3. "Little Woman," Bobby Sherman
4. "I Can't Get Next to You," The Temptations
5. "Hot Fun in the Summertime," Sly & The Family Stone
6. "Everybody's Talkin'," Nilsson
7. "Easy to Be Hard," Three Dog Night
8. "Honky Tonk Women," The Rolling Stones
9. "This Girl Is a Woman Now," Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
10. "Green River," Creedence Clearwater Revival
11. "Suspicious Minds," Elvis Presley
12. "That's the Way Love Is," Marvin Gaye
13. "I'm Gonna Make You Mine," Lou Christie
14. "Oh, What a Night," The Dells
15. "Baby It's You," Smith
16. "Get Together," The Youngbloods
17. "I'll Never Fall in Love Again," Tom Jones
18. "When I Die," Motherlode
19. "Tracy," The Cuff Links
20. "What's the Use of Breaking Up," Jerry Butler
21. "Hurt So Bad," The Lettermen
22. "A Boy Named Sue," Johnny Cash
23. "Keem-O-Sabe," The Electric Indian
24. "Sugar on Sunday," The Clique
25. "Wedding Bell Blues," The 5th Dimension
26. "Carry Me Back," The Rascals
27. "You, I," The Rugbys
28. "Lay Lady Lay," Bob Dylan
29. "I'd Wait a Million Years," The Grass Roots
30. "Your Good Thing (Is About to End)," Lou Rawls

32. "Going in Circles," The Friends of Distinction
33. "Is That All There Is," Peggy Lee
34. "What Kind of Fool Do You Think I Am," Bill Deal & The Rhondels
35. "Make Believe," Wind
36. "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," Dionne Warwick

45. "It's Getting Better," Mama Cass
46. "Jealous Kind of Fella," Garland Green

48. "Walk On By," Isaac Hayes

51. "Something in the Air," Thunderclap Newman
52. "Ball of Fire," Tommy James & The Shondells
53. "Smile a Little Smile for Me," The Flying Machine

66. "Reuben James," Kenny Rogers & The First Edition
67. "Baby, I'm for Real," The Originals

72. "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," Crosby, Stills & Nash

75. "Runnin' Blue," The Doors

77. "Groovy Grubworm," Harlow Wilcox & The Oakies
78. "Let a Man Come In and Do the Popcorn Part One," James Brown


80. "Mind, Body and Soul," The Flaming Ember

83. "Cherry Hill Park," Billy Joe Royal

89. "Try a Little Kindness," Glen Campbell

98. "Delta Lady," Joe Cocker


Leaving the chart:
  • "Share Your Love with Me," Aretha Franklin (10 weeks)
  • "Soul Deep," The Box Tops (14 weeks)

New on the chart:

"Groovy Grubworm," Harlow Wilcox & The Oakies
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(#30 US; #18 AC; #42 Country)

"Try a Little Kindness," Glen Campbell
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(#23 US; #1 AC; #2 Country; #45 UK)

"Let a Man Come In and Do the Popcorn Part One," James Brown
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(#21 US; #2 R&B)


And new on the boob tube:
  • The Ed Sullivan Show, Season 22, episode 2, featuring Gladys Knight & the Pips, Fantasio, Phyllis Diller, and Sacha Distel
  • Mission: Impossible, "The Numbers Game"
  • Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, Season 3, episode 4
  • That Girl, "Nobody Here But Us Chickens"
  • Ironside, "Eye of the Hurricane"
  • Get Smart, "Valerie of the Dolls"
  • Hogan's Heroes, "The Klink Commandos"
  • Adam-12, "Log 23: Pig Is a Three Letter Word"

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Sounds nice enough, but not too memorable.
It does sound nice...and deserved to do better than our next two.

Obscure Elvis.
More obscure Elvis.
And so commences his post-British Invasion slide into obscurity and irrelevance. These two I can't remember how they go right after I've listened to them.

Glass half full: It's all setup for the '68 Comeback Special.

Ah, now there's an all-time classic (and, yeah, sounds like the 50s).
The sheer melodrama of the Shangri-Las' major singles is so OTT that it's enjoyable. And this, of course, is their signature song. Look for a now-obscure Top 20 parody song to be coming our way in a couple of months.

Interesting. After the mostly lackluster late 70s, I consider the first half of the 80s to be a bit of a Renaissance in Horror movies, TV, and literature. American Werewolf, Creepshow, Evil Dead, Tales From the Darkside, et cetera. AWIL was both a nice homage to classic Horror and a modern reinvention of it at the same time, which is something that has become increasingly rare over the years (Shape of Water is the only contemporary example that springs to mind).
You're just way more into horror than I am.
 
22. "A Boy Named Sue," Johnny Cash
One of the main reasons I watched Ken Burns; epic doc on country music was to see if I could figure out why Johnny Cash is so revered by country fans. This is not a veiled put down of the artist, I really don't understand why country fans love him so much in terms of his music. I have a very open mind when it comes to music and I'm willing to listen to and like pretty much anyone, but I just don't get why country fans love his music so much.

There were TONS of male singers with better voices. Cash's voice was just okay, but he had no range, little power, no vibrato, and his voice was not very mellifluous. Kris Kristoffersen, Willie Nelson and many others had better songs. Obviously you don't have to have a great voice in order to have hits or "great" songs, (and he had a lot of them), and people can love an artist who never has a hit, but Cash seems to be on a different level.

But after watching the doc, I think I figured it out. The guy had massive amounts of charisma and presence. When he brought all that to bear on a song, it seemed to give that song a bigger meaning or maybe some hidden meaning. He dressed in all black, total opposite of other male country artists. It really showed in the Nine Inch Nails song, Hurt, which Cash did in the latter part of his life. That song, to me, was perfect for him.

The closest pop music comp I could come up with was Prince. Not a match of course, but in terms of an artist with massive charisma who might have been just as loved as Cash, even without great songs or great voice. I think they're in a similar "ball park".

BTW, recommend the Country Music doc, whether you like country music or not. It is part of American history and I guarantee you, you'll learn some interesting stuff about the music you never knew before. I sure did.
 
Hmm. Should he quit while he's a head?

"Groovy Grubworm," Harlow Wilcox & The Oakies
All I can say is that it doesn't live up to the potential of the title.

"Try a Little Kindness," Glen Campbell
Now there's a nice little Lost 45.

"Let a Man Come In and Do the Popcorn Part One," James Brown
Look, it's James Brown! :rommie:

The sheer melodrama of the Shangri-Las' major singles is so OTT that it's enjoyable.
"Look out! Look out! Look out!" :rommie:

You're just way more into horror than I am.
This is likely true. Did I mention that I'm in the Arkham Bazaar anthology again this year? :rommie:
 
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55th Anniversary Viewing

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The Ed Sullivan Show
Season 17, episode 1
Originally aired September 27, 1964
As represented in The Best of the Ed Sullivan Show

Ed said:
And now, ladies and gentlemen and our youngsters, here are The Beach Boys!
The boys give an enjoyable performance of their recent chart-topper "I Get Around," wearing matching striped shirts, surrounded by hoodless hot rods, and accompanied by a bit of footage of beachside activity in California:
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Ed said:
And now, from Hollywood, singing star Robert Goulet opens his medley with "Let There Be Love"!
Pretty sure this swing number has come up on the show before in one era or the other. 1964's grannies are very pleased.
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Ed said:
Now our little Italian mouse, Topo Gigio, has just returned from Italy, Rome! And I know that with the good news for all of us, so let's give little Topo a big hand and let him know how happy we are at his return, come on now!
Topo is counting on the Yankees being in the World Series because of all of the paesans on the team. He then sings a version of "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off" with an English vs. Italian twist. Finally, Ed grants his request for a kiss goodnight.

Ed said:
Tonight, Arizona's Miss America was escorted to our theater by her friend Curley, and here they are! Let's bring on Miss America!
The recently crowned Vonda Kay Van Dyke walks onstage, wooden pal in hand, accompanied by "There She Is, Miss America," then goes into her ventriloquist act. Her lips don't move, but her teeth are clenched in the semblance of a forced smile whenever he talks. The vocal versatility that she displays when they sing a duet of "Wherever We Go, It's Together" is pretty impressive. The duo go over to briefly talk to Ed afterwards.

Ed said:
Now, ladies and gentlemen, for this season we've signed up a lot of great stars, and one of 'em is gonna make repeated appearances on our show is Alan King! So let's bring Alan [trails off incoherently...]
Cigarette in hand, King reminisces about his old family doctor who made house calls, then goes off against more modern medical practices...which includes echoing my own bemused thoughts about how the doctor leaves the room during your X-rays.

Ed said:
And now, ladies and gentlemen, Leslie Uggams singing "The Man I Love"!
The actress/singer delivers a strong performance of the Ira & George Gershwin standard.

Ed said:
You're a fine combination, the youngsters love ya, so let's play a song for 'em, you gonna sing a song?
The Beach Boys are really there to plug their new single, "Wendy" (charts Oct. 17), but it understandably only gets to #44, not exactly being in the same league as their many more memorable classics...
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Ed said:
We'll see you at the World Series and we'll see you here next Sunday night. Good night, and thank you very, very [trails off while being drowned out by the band...]


Also in the original episode according to tv.com:
Music:
--Robert Goulet - "Quiet Nights," "This is All I Ask" and "My Love Forgive Me (Amore Scusami)."
--Leslie Uggams - "I Feel Pretty"
Comedy:
--On film: Dotson's Comedy Divers
Also appearing:
--Harvest Moon Ball Dancers (winners from different catagories)
--Audience bow: Amy Norworth (widow of songwriter Jack Norworth).
--Audience bow: Mrs. Godfrey (Arthur Godfrey's mother).
--Cameo: actress Julie Newmar, co-star of "My Living Doll," a sitcom which premiered that night (Sept. 27, 1964) on CBS-TV (immediately following "Ed Sullivan").


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12 O'Clock High
"The Men and the Boys"
Originally aired October 2, 1964
IMDb said:
Gen. Savage decides to court martial a captain who broke formation to provide air cover for a crew bailing out of a plane, creating much anger.

When the bomber co-piloted by Lt. Tom Lockridge (Glenn Corbett) gets shots up badly, killing the pilot (don't worry, it wasn't Martin Milner!), his buddy Capt. Wade Ritchie (Lou Antonio) disregards Savage's orders by going down to fly cover for Lockridge's plane while the surviving crew bails out. While this might sound all righteous and heroic, breaking formation is serious business in a bomber group (for reasons that Lockridge himself will be getting into a bit later), which is underscored when one of Wade's own waist gunners, Jonesy, gets shot up by a fighter.

Savage, not in a pleasant mood because he lost four bombers on this mission, grounds Ritchie pending a court martial...a move that clearly isn't popular with his men. But men can misunderstand the motives of the commander that they're serving under, because they're not seeing the bigger picture...a point that's underscored back in Savage's office, when Crowe gives Savage a glimpse of the even bigger strategic-level picture to explain why his crews are being pushed so hard. Following this, Lockridge returns to base, having been picked up in the Channel, to learn that Ritchie is being reprimanded for what he considers an act of heroism. When Savage visits the badly wounded Jonesy in the base's hospital, Lockridge's ladyfriend, nurse Lt. Libby MacAndrews (Sally Kellerman), takes the opportunity to try to intervene on Ritchie's behalf. Savage takes the opportunity to contrast Ritchie's actions against Lockridge's performance as an officer whom he has confidence in as being one who wouldn't have done the sort of thing that Ritchie did.

Going for a drink at the officer's club, Savage finds the men avoiding him, and Stovall offers some insight about how the men don't think he's got their backs, which has affected their performance in a more recent mission. Sitting at a table, Ritchie and a pal make some disparaging remarks about Savage's motivations as he leaves, and Lockridge's first instinct is to jump to Savage's defense, following which Ritchie plays the "hey pal, I saved your life" card. Lockridge finds himself torn between friendship/gratitude to Ritchie and loyalty/duty to Savage and the Air Corps.

At the court martial, Lockridge tries to defend Ritchie, but in questioning it comes out how Ritchie has exhibited a tendency for showboating behavior since his cadet days, and how he tried to become a fighter pilot, which doesn't speak well for his willingness to be a team player on a bomber crew. Ritchie is demoted and taken off duty for three months. He puts in for a transfer but Savage won't have it, because in the long term, he still needs Ritchie where he's at, doing the job that he's been trained to do.

That evening in Archbury, Savage expresses his own doubts over drinks with his steady ladyfriend Liz Woodruff (Hazel Court, in her first of four appearances in the role, for which she receives a prestigious "And Special Appearance by" in the opening credits). Savage is called back to base early by Stovall because Lockridge has put in a letter turning down the Distinguished Flying Cross for which Savage has recommended him, in protest of Ritchie's punishment. Stovall wants to stop the letter because of the scandalous investigation that's sure to ensue, but Savage tells him to let it go through the proper channels.

At the beginning of Act IV, Lockridge learns from Libby that Jonesy has died. Feeling responsible for having cost another man his life, the scales tip against Ritchie in Lockridge's eyes, and in a speech that Savage would have been gratified to hear, he explains to Libby exactly why what Ritchie did was so wrong...
Lt. Rockridge said:
Wade killed him, Libby. Whether he did it for me or anybody else, he had no right to trade away Jonesy's life....He commanded a plane with nine other men in it, in a formation with two hundred other men. Now he wasn't just trained to fly, he was trained to fight with those nine men, and those two hundred men, and Jonesy was trained to depend upon Wade's judgment. And now Jonesy's dead because Wade violated that trust, don't you see?


Needing to put every man he can in the air for a vital mission against a fuel depot, Savage flies with Ritchie as co-pilot (demonstrating a recurring trait in his command style, that if he feels an officer is a risk to those around him, then he's the one who'll fly with him). Lockridge's principles are put to the test when the Piccadilly Lily is shot up by fighter fire, badly wounding Savage. Given the opportunity to return the favor to Ritchie and save Savage at the same time, he instead chooses to maintain the formation in an effort to get the rest of the group safely home. Ritchie proves his true character when he selfishly bawls out Lockridge over the radio, but Savage regains consciousness and, while being patched up, both reinforces Lockridge's order to the rest of the group and takes control of the Lily, flying her as low as possible to minimize the maneuverability of the pursuing fighters. Ritchie shows his true colors again when he protests not being allowed to jump. A squadron of P-47s comes to the rescue and Lily makes it to the Channel...the crash count won't be starting this week! Being carried to an ambulance in the Epilog, Savage expresses his respect and admiration for what Lockridge chose to do, and tells Crowe that, should the war last long enough, he might consider Lockridge for Savage's job.

Trivia point: Including series leads Lansing and Overton, that's a total of five Trek guests, all in this week's opening credits!

There'll be no new episode this week. My guess would be that the early-season preemption was likely due to it being presidential election season. It wouldn't have been the World Series, as the day fell between Games 2 and 3.

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55th Anniversary Fly-on-the-Wall Listening

On October 6, 1964, the Fabs are working not on their next #1 single, but the one after that:
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Meanwhile, nearly 3-1/2 years later...our by-then old friend Van Williams is back to doing the rounds as a guest star, playing a principled sheriff who's raising a young son on an early '68 episode of The Big Valley:
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Don't worry, it's only a flesh wound...
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The guy had massive amounts of charisma and presence.
In other words, "it factor". Also, I think a lot of his success/reputation is from his crossover appeal.

I'm not that familiar with the history of country music, but I was under the impression that for the country scene of the time when he broke out in the '50s, he was the equivalent of a what a rock and roll artist was to traditional popular music. Measuring his talent by the standards of the traditional artists of the time would be beside the point...like comparing Elvis's singing talent to Sinatra's.

Hmm. Should he quit while he's a head?
He's-a head first, and nothing's stopping him now!

All I can say is that it doesn't live up to the potential of the title.
This was a borderline addition for me. It's rockabilly enough to have passed muster.

Now there's a nice little Lost 45.
Decent, but perhaps lost for a reason.

Look, it's James Brown! :rommie:
1969
  • The Moon landing
  • Woodstock
  • James Brown's ongoing obsession with the damn Popcorn

"Look out! Look out! Look out!
Look out!" SCREEEEEECHCRASH!!!

This is likely true. Did I mention that I'm in the Arkham Bazaar anthology again this year? :rommie:
Congratulations! And see? I had to look up what that even was...I assume the current edition of this?
 
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surrounded by hoodless hot rods
Kind of makes me wonder about the logistics-- did the boys drive them to the show or were they delivered on a flatbed? "Ed, can you sign for these hoodless hot rods?"

Pretty sure this swing number has come up on the show before in one era or the other.
They all start to sound alike....

Topo is counting on the Yankees being in the World Series because of all of the paesans on the team.
Topo is a Yankees fan? :(

The recently crowned Vonda Kay Van Dyke walks onstage, wooden pal in hand, accompanied by "There She Is, Miss America," then goes into her ventriloquist act.
I remember seeing this, or perhaps another appearance. I just love the idea of a Miss America being a ventriloquist. It would have been better if the dummy was female and they were both in swimsuits, but....

Cigarette in hand, King reminisces about his old family doctor who made house calls
In a Sea Hunt episode we saw yesterday, a doctor had to tell Mike's friend that he was not going to die after all-- so he called in a Coast Guard seaplane to fly him out to Mike's boat. His nurse was aghast. "But what about your house calls?!"

The Beach Boys are really there to plug their new single, "Wendy" (charts Oct. 17), but it understandably only gets to #44, not exactly being in the same league as their many more memorable classics...
Nice song, though.

Being carried to an ambulance in the Epilog, Savage expresses his respect and admiration for what Lockridge chose to do, and tells Crowe that, should the war last long enough, he might consider Lockridge for Savage's job.
This sounds like a really good episode. Complex issues with no good answers and war is Hell.

He's-a head first, and nothing's stopping him now!
:rommie:

Look out!" SCREEEEEECHCRASH!!!
Ahhh, I love it. :rommie:

Congratulations!
Thank you. :)

And see? I had to look up what that even was...
Not surprising. It's a very small press, and they're really mostly known for their Lovecraft independent film festivals (and DVDs).

I assume the current edition of this?
You got it. Looks like 2018 is sold out, otherwise I could brag about my name on the cover. I'm not sure if I'll be on the cover this year, since I'm just in the "Honorable Mention" category (but people get to read it, and that's all I care about).
 
Ye gods, did I fall behind in my viewing this weekend! Nearly done with last week's shows, but I'll post in two parts for ease of posting and reading.

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50th Anniversary Viewing (Part 1)

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Mission: Impossible
"The Code"
Originally aired September 28, 1969
Wiki said:
In order to stop an invasion and shatter an alliance between two countries, the IMF team must photograph and break a code in a matter of minutes, by mounting a chosen-plaintext attack. First appearance of Leonard Nimoy as Paris. For this season, the series does not replace Cinnamon Carter with a regular female lead, but uses a succession of guest stars.
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The reel-to-reel tape on a closed merry-go-round said:
This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim.

If we're getting a series of female guest agents, I assume the portfolio scenes will be coming back as a regular thing. The new usual suspects, already laid out on the table:
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And this week's hand-picked female guest agent:
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She's not at the briefing, already being out in the field.

Paris in Disguise (with Beard) as a revolutionary named El Lider hijacks a plane to force it to land in our Enemy Country of the Week, Tierra Nueva. Dictator Bravo (Harold Gould) takes the opportunity to nab Hay's character, Roberts, who's on the plane and whom they've been made to learn is an American agent. Major Lacerda (Nate Esformes) strip-searches Roberts on the plane and finds her IMF-planted coded contact lenses. We don't see much, but the whole sequence is played up for titillation and humiliation. And that's it for her role in the mission. The bad guys mention letting her go once their planned invasion of neighboring San Cristobal has commenced. Other than Paris being on the plane with her, we never see her interact with the rest of the team. The contacts are meant to feed a false intel message to Bravo and his liaison with the United People's Republic, Janos (Michael Constantine), so that the IMF will have an opportunity to see it being coded. (And if Jim Phelps is such a master operative that he can plan and execute these complex, highly detailed missions anywhere in the world on short notice, you'd think the guy on the tape wouldn't feel the need to parenthetically expand "UPR" for his benefit. :p)
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With the help of a local agent, Jim and Willy stage a diversion to swap out the limo taking Paris into Tierra Nueva for one that's got a custom Barney-smuggling compartment behind the back seat...but why are Bravo's people inspecting what they think is their own limo? In his meeting with Bravo and Janos, Paris plants a bug in the office so that Jim and Willy, ultimately manning the back of a van, can listen in as he wheels and deals his way into the invasion plan and sews the seeds of turning Bravo and Janos against each other. Meanwhile Barney does his thing, gaining access to the maintenance spaces and putting his rolling camera gadget into the pipes, complete with a drill for making a peephole over the cryptology room. There's a really lame mid-episode jeopardy moment when the hole leaks water droplets down onto the equipment, which the crypto clerk eventually notices but just wipes up.

Jim listens in as Janos offers El Lider more in San Cristobal than Bravo is willing to give. Meanwhile Bravo takes the blown-up microdots down to crypto and has them coded and chemically overlaid onto a photo of an outdoor city square with a clock tower. There's a little more false jeopardy when Barney has to hide while the janitor briefly comes into the maintenance room where he's been operating. There's some more effective jeopardy when Jim not only has trouble breaking the code, but hears that the courier's schedule has been moved up, giving him even less time than he'd planned on. He eventually gets the idea that the additional key needed is in the photograph itself, and zeroes in on the time shown on the clock.

Having done his part, Barney slips out and back into his comfy limo compartment, while El Lider accepts Janos's offer and sews some last seeds before being driven to the airport. Jim cracks the code and has Willy transmit the invasion plans to San Cristobal via telegraph. When the limo makes its rendezvous with the IMF van, we see that Barney and Paris have the driver and guard trussed up, and the reunited team listen as Bravo and Janos react to the news of the prepared San Cristobal defenses and turn against one each other (a bit unconvincingly). They hear a gunshot, and the episode ends on this cheery moment...

Jim: The alliance is broken.
Barney: Who fired?
Jim: What difference does it make?​

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Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
Season 3, episode 3
Originally aired September 29, 1969
The Wiki list of guest appearances said:
Sonny & Cher, Flip Wilson

There's an opening cocktail party with Sonny & Cher, which includes the first of a couple of plugs of Cher's new picture, Chastity.

They do what looks like a spoof of the old Right Guard commercial with the two guys in separate apartments talking through a shared medicine cabinet. Didn't realize the commercial went back to '69 (and couldn't quickly find a confirmation that it did--as with my own memory, it's described as being from the early '70s).

Sonny & Cher introduce General Bull Wright.

There's a recurring gag bit with Arte and Sonny on the moon with a telephone.

Cher kicks off the news segment, and this time there is a video:
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One Liners with a traffic/cars theme...and Sonny & Cher:
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S&C introduce this week's Quickies:
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A Robot Theater camping skit.

The Fickle Finger of Fate goes to the Surgeon General.

The Mod, Mod World of Status:
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Love, American Style
Unaired pilot
Series premiered September 29, 1969

And now we come to the pilot episode that Decades showed back in 2017. It apparently originally consisted of four half-hour segments that were used in various aired episodes throughout the first season. Decades only showed three of them, but evidence of the missing segment was in the list of guests in the opening credits as well as the end credits, which included the segment's name.

First a note of interest about the opening theme...
Wiki said:
For the first season, the show's theme song was performed by The Cowsills. Beginning in the second season, the same theme song was sung by the Ron Hicklin Singers, also known as the voices behind The Partridge Family (based on the Cowsills), among others, featuring brothers John and Tom Bahler (billed as The Charles Fox Singers).


Our first segment is "Love and a Couple of Couples," which actually aired as part of the first broadcast episode on September 29. It opens with a song that sounds like it was also performed by the Cowsills. Gary (Michael Callan) gets an awkward visit from his ex-wife, Aggie (Penny Fuller) while he's cooking dinner for his fiancee, June (Yvonne Craig). Aggie's clearly still attached to Gary--the main thing she wants to talk about is their old bed. While he's out of the room she tries on the ring that Gary plans to give June that evening and can't get it off. So she stays for dinner, upsetting June with her tales of their former marriage. After a visit from Aggie's glee club, during which June leaves in a huff, the ex-spouses call a plumber to help them get the ring off. While he's trying at it, they have an argument in which she admits that she still has feelings for him, and he realizes the same, so they decide to leave the ring where it's at.

I think they were trying to make June a little unlikeable, but I still feel sorry for her.

"Love and the Single Couple," which aired in the fifth episode on October 27, opens with a brief narration. It features Tim (Michael Anderson, Jr.) and Katherine (Diana Ewing), a young, unmarried couple who seem to both want to stay that way, but are facing pressure from Katherine's parents (Don Porter and former room-maker for Daddy Marjorie Lord). Kathy feels strongly about staying unmarried based on her antiestablishment principles, to the point where she and Tim get into a spat when he's willing to consider her parents' argument. He goes out walking for the night, and when he returns, reluctantly reveals that on a trip to Mexico they'd made four months ago, he'd tricked her into signing a marriage certificate. The parents are a lot more pleased about this development that Kathy is, but Tim explains his reasons for doing it, and persuades her to accept the arrangement, along with his ring.
Tim said:
If our love is strong, Kat, it'll survive anything, even marriage.
This segment has a song in the middle; and before that the audio was briefly interrupted by an EAS test on my former Decades affiliate.

"Love and the Uncoupled Couple" wasn't aired until episode 20, on February 20, 1970. Mike (Greg Morris) and Dessie (Janee Michelle) are another unmarried couple. His mission, which he's chosen to accept, is to get married when he's through with his medical internship and can better support her as a husband. They have an argument over this which culminates in him leaving...and selling the big, brass bed that does indeed feature in every segment as I'd read on Wiki. Dessie pays a visit to Dr. Harris (Tom Bosley) because she thinks she's pregnant, but gives him a couple of false names, unable to keep them straight--"Palmer" and "Parker" (make a note of this for comparison with our unshown fourth segment). At the hospital where they both work (she as a nurse), word gets around fast that she's available and other interns start asking her out. Mike's fellow intern and confidant Ernie (Darryl Hickman) learns of her condition, and the news quickly gets to Mike. Now he wants to get married, but she doesn't want him to just for that reason. She subsequently learns from Dr. Harris that she's not pregnant after all, and Tim sticks to the new plan.

Burt Mustin makes an uncredited appearance as a patient in this segment. And there's another song in the story.

The unshown segment, "Love and the Wild Party" (from episode 8, aired Nov. 17), would have featured Peter Palmer, Robert Reed, Jeannine Riley, and Francine York. Anyway, note the bolded name of the first actor who was supposed to be in the segment--a No-Prize to anyone who gets the connection.

And that, alas, is all the Love, American Style that I have.

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"My Part Belongs to Daddy"
Originally aired October 2, 1969
Wiki said:
Ann is directing a play back at home in Brewster and has to tell her father that he's not getting the starring role.

Ann and Donald are in Brewster for the annual country club show when Ann gets hooked into directing it by her father. She subsequently learns that everyone at audition night already thinks that she's doing it. Mr. Marie's regular number is "Minnie the Moocher," which we see Lew Parker perform. In trying to back out of the gig, Ann accidentally volunteers to direct a play instead.

The play Ann comes up with is a version of Hamlet updated to be about the generation gap. Lew doesn't take his audition seriously, while the performance of a Mr. Brooks (Ned Wertimer) for the same part impresses her. When Ann summons up the courage to tell her father, he takes it very well. We skip to after the play, to learn that Brooks forgot his lines and Lew covered for him by arising from onstage death to sing "Minnie the Moocher".

"Oh, Donald" count: 2
"Oh, Daddy" count: 2
"Oh, Father" count: 1 (while reading with Mr. Brooks in his audition)
"Oh, Harry" count: 1

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Kind of makes me wonder about the logistics-- did the boys drive them to the show or were they delivered on a flatbed? "Ed, can you sign for these hoodless hot rods?"
I have to imagine that sort of thing was strictly the show's bag.

Topo is a Yankees fan? :(
Looks like Topo got his wish...they were in the Series, but got beaten by the Cardinals, 4 to 3. Also looks like it was broadcast on NBC, so still wouldn't have preempted 12OCH, which was on ABC.

I remember seeing this, or perhaps another appearance.
Kinda doubtful they'd bring her on again outside of the context of just having won the pageant.

This sounds like a really good episode. Complex issues with no good answers and war is Hell.
If you're ever interested in checking one out, the ones that I'm currently watching are all on YouTube. I have to say, I've been getting a lot more out of these early episodes than I did the first time around.

You got it. Looks like 2018 is sold out, otherwise I could brag about my name on the cover. I'm not sure if I'll be on the cover this year, since I'm just in the "Honorable Mention" category (but people get to read it, and that's all I care about).
Yeah, I was wondering why your name wasn't on the cover of that one.
 
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'm not that familiar with the history of country music, but I was under the impression that for the country scene of the time when he broke out in the '50s, he was the equivalent of a what a rock and roll artist was to traditional popular music. Measuring his talent by the standards of the traditional artists of the time would be beside the point...like comparing Elvis's singing talent to Sinatra's.
When they started out, Cash and Elvis were both doing rockabilly and their careers were moving along parallel lines. Both were signed to Sam Phillips' Sun Records, so comparing Cash to artists like Elvis, Carl Perkins, Bill Haley, back in the 50's did make sense.

Thing is, with musical artists who are revered on the level of a Cash or Elvis, I can usually see what it is about that artist's music or performance that makes them so loved regardless of whether or not I like the artist's music or performance. Music and performance-wise, I couldn't see what made Cash the figure he became in country music, until I saw Burns' doc.
 
The new usual suspects, already laid out on the table:
Ironically, a distant descendant of this new Paris character will serve on a starship called Voyager.

And that's it for her role in the mission. The bad guys mention letting her go once their planned invasion of neighboring San Cristobal has commenced. Other than Paris being on the plane with her, we never see her interact with the rest of the team.
And she has Special Guest Star status.

...but why are Bravo's people inspecting what they think is their own limo?
Trust no one!

Jim: The alliance is broken.
Barney: Who fired?
Jim: What difference does it make?​
Harsh. The cloak-and-dagger life is taking its toll on Jim.

And now we come to the pilot episode that Decades showed back in 2017.
I remember seeing this.

I think they were trying to make June a little unlikeable, but I still feel sorry for her.
If they wanted her to be unlikable, they shouldn't have cast Yvonne Craig. :rommie:

The parents are a lot more pleased about this development that Kathy is, but Tim explains his reasons for doing it, and persuades her to accept the arrangement, along with his ring.
Not exactly the hippest segment.

The unshown segment, "Love and the Wild Party" (from episode 8, aired Nov. 17), would have featured Peter Palmer, Robert Reed, Jeannine Riley, and Francine York. Anyway, note the bolded name of the first actor who was supposed to be in the segment--a No-Prize to anyone who gets the connection.
I believe that was another of Stan's "Bob Banner" flubs.

And that, alas, is all the Love, American Style that I have.
I can't believe they still have only released the first season on DVD.

Ann and Donald are in Brewster for the annual country club show when Ann gets hooked into directing it by her father.
Has she ever directed anything before?

We skip to after the play, to learn that Brooks forgot his lines and Lew covered for him by arising from onstage death to sing "Minnie the Moocher".
In our alternate genre version of the show, Lew really rises from the dead, EC style.

I have to imagine that sort of thing was strictly the show's bag.
At that point in the show, they probably had hoodless hot rods in their prop inventory.

Kinda doubtful they'd bring her on again outside of the context of just having won the pageant.
Such a shame....

If you're ever interested in checking one out, the ones that I'm currently watching are all on YouTube. I have to say, I've been getting a lot more out of these early episodes than I did the first time around.
Thanks. I found it and downloaded it. I'll see if I can watch it this weekend.

Yeah, I was wondering why your name wasn't on the cover of that one.
I found my copy and it turns out you had the right one after all, but it's a flip book and they had the "jam" side up. Apparently they didn't do one last year for some reason. But if you click on "quick view," you can see the list of contributors.

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Ironically, a distant descendant of this new Paris character will serve on a starship called Voyager.
Not crazy about the association, but it did raise the question for me--is Paris his first name or his last name? Just got a better look at his portfolio portrait in this week's episode--he's billed as "The Great Paris," so possibly just a stage name. He's the only major IMF regular so far whose full name we don't know.

Not exactly the hippest segment.
Depends on how you're looking at the glass.

I believe that was another of Stan's "Bob Banner" flubs.
Yep! Amazing Spider-Man #1, in only one of its two stories, IIRC. I found it quite a coincidence that they had a segment with an actor named Peter Palmer and another segment in which somebody mixes up the names Parker and Palmer. Makes me wonder if there wasn't a True Believer in their midst....

Has she ever directed anything before?
Nope. And of course, once she was backed into the job, she started to take some pride in it being her first directing gig.

Nice! :techman:
 
Not crazy about the association
Oh? :rommie:

but it did raise the question for me--is Paris his first name or his last name? Just got a better look at his portfolio portrait in this week's episode--he's billed as "The Great Paris," so possibly just a stage name. He's the only major IMF regular so far whose full name we don't know.
According to Wiki, he's a retired magician whose real name is never revealed, so apparently not related to Tom at all-- unless he legally changed it and passed it on to his offspring.

Depends on how you're looking at the glass.
Well, whichever approach you think is right, "hip" would have been living together.

Yep! Amazing Spider-Man #1, in only one of its two stories, IIRC. I found it quite a coincidence that they had a segment with an actor named Peter Palmer and another segment in which somebody mixes up the names Parker and Palmer. Makes me wonder if there wasn't a True Believer in their midst....
I wouldn't be surprised, although I'm sure the actor was a coincidence.

Thank you. :)
 
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