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Episode IX Speculation and Discussion

And even if you discount Yoda's little outfit, look at what Anakin is wearing in the final scene of ROTJ.

Yoda's outfit isn't remotely distinctive or "Jedi"-like. He's just wearing a tattered burlap coat. Sure, the colors are vaguely reminiscent of what we think of as the Jedi look, but whether it was intentional or not doesn't really matter, since it doesn't truly connect visually to Obi Wan's outfit to form a consistent look. At the time of ESB, those were the only two Jedi we'd ever seen, so it's a stretch to say they were really "dressed alike."

I'll totally agree on the Anakin ROTJ thing, though.

But all that comes AFTER ANH. Clearly, in ANH, it was just a "desert" look. Later, Lucas changed his mind (ROTJ, maybe ESB, DEFINITELY the PT.)

Lucas is notorious for changing his mind, as we all know. But the original intent of Obi Wan's look was not "Hey, this is a standard, identifiable Jedi uniform."

Everyone always jokes about why Luke is "hidden" on Tatooine with his real name and how Obi Wan also uses his real last name, too, despite also being in "hiding."

Would be all kinds of extra stupid if he wore distinctive, signature Jedi garb while trying to lay low.
 
someone claiming to work at a movie theatre says there will be an Ep9 trailer with Maleficent 2 next month https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/d0jrq1/hey_everyone_here_its_your_local_movie/

And the BBFC has rated a trailer for the movie
https://bbfc.co.uk/releases/star-wars-rise-skywalker-filmtrailer-3

It's time for the full trailer in my opinion. Let's face it, it's not that long til it's released is it? I'm ready for to the first full trailer, there's just the right enough amount of time left to squeeze a second trailer between now and then.
 
I would point out that Qui-gon was wearing basically the same thing as Obi-wan and other Jedi, but was only noted as a Jedi by Anakin because he spotted the lightsaber.
And yet, a droid states they are Jedi, the diner droid says "Jedi by the looks of him."

It's not perfect but it definitely is to me.
 
The Trade Federation is expecting some officials from the Republic since its an diplomatic ship that arrived. Since the two guys that came out were in robes and not fancy dress of a politician, the main representative it could be would be a Jedi, who wear simple robes. Very plain. Like monks.
 
And yet, a droid states they are Jedi, the diner droid says "Jedi by the looks of him."

It's not perfect but it definitely is to me.
A diner in the center of the capital of the Galactic Republic, where Jedi are a pretty common sight.
 
Coruscant is likely the one planet in the Galaxy were the humble robes of a Jedi would stand out only because they would look cleaner than any of the drifters in the lower levels, and there would be less other monk types around the capital city planet of the Republic other than Jedi. That and its the center of Jedi business, with their main temple...so there are thousands of Jedi coming and going from that planet a year. Most other planets in the Republic or outside the Republic? Most people will never have seen a Jedi. Few Jedi will visit a planet for a few days, then leave....with most people being unaware they were even there. Even those that see them wouldn't know they are Jedi unless they happen to draw their lightsabers. That is unless its during the Clone Wars and they happen to be wearing partial armor with their robes with Jedi and Republic iconography on them. Usually with Clone Troopers around the place. Than they kind of stand out since the people that aren't clones but on the front lines are probably Jedi.
 
A diner in the center of the capital of the Galactic Republic, where Jedi are a pretty common sight.
What traits would the Jedi share that a droid would identify by looks?
The Trade Federation is expecting some officials from the Republic since its an diplomatic ship that arrived. Since the two guys that came out were in robes and not fancy dress of a politician, the main representative it could be would be a Jedi, who wear simple robes. Very plain. Like monks.
But it isn't the Trade Federation leaders that come to the Jedi conclusion. The droid does. In the novel TC-14 speculates that one is a Jedi Master. Apparently there are visual clues that the droid is picking up on that indicate such things.
 
Ha! So true! No wonder the stormtroopers killed Owen, they must have thought he was a Jedi!



That was definitely the "official" explanation, but it's retcon silliness. And, as fireproof points out, the outfit was so distinctively associated with the Jedi that they were subsequently identified as such by outfit alone.

Rewatching ANH yesterday, it occurred to me that Beru and Owen were likely tortured and died refusing to answer any questions...because they know who Luke is, and know he’s gone off with Obi Wan, and likely even recognise Artoo....it’s possible Owen got back from his Jawa shopping trip and suddenly went ‘hmm..protocol droid..I mean he’s all gold now..it can’t be....but once he saw Artoo (having first picked Red and not paid attention to the replacement) next to him had a serious ‘oh fuck’ moment.
Once Luke is talking about Ben Kenobi, he knows things are gonna get hairy.

Maybe they even self destructed the house themselves.
 
Meh, I'm not going to believe it until I see more legitimate evidence.
Rewatching ANH yesterday, it occurred to me that Beru and Owen were likely tortured and died refusing to answer any questions...because they know who Luke is, and know he’s gone off with Obi Wan, and likely even recognise Artoo....it’s possible Owen got back from his Jawa shopping trip and suddenly went ‘hmm..protocol droid..I mean he’s all gold now..it can’t be....but once he saw Artoo (having first picked Red and not paid attention to the replacement) next to him had a serious ‘oh fuck’ moment.
Once Luke is talking about Ben Kenobi, he knows things are gonna get hairy.

Maybe they even self destructed the house themselves.
Wow, it never occurred to me until seeing this post that Owen recognized R2 when he bought him and C-3P0.
 


‘How to get a happy ending in that people will believe in, after we undid the previous happy ending’
And
‘Oh shit, how do we give everyone an ending without going full Return of the King’
And
‘How the fuck do we wrap up character arcs for leads we have barely developed as characters because we screwed the narrative pace completely in the last movie’
And
‘Fuck. We hired the GoT thrones guys for the next lot, and they land an ending like a kamikaze landed his plane in Pearl Harbour. What should we leave open for them to miff up?’
 
Meh, I'm not going to believe it until I see more legitimate evidence.

Wow, it never occurred to me until seeing this post that Owen recognized R2 when he bought him and C-3P0.

It literally crossed my mind yesterday when watching ANH with family, and fielding questions and chatting.
Watching Obi Wan bend the truth was pretty eye opening too...I don’t think R2 actually had the memory dump. And it’s tragic for threepio, he’s literally returning home and doesn’t know it...but Owen and Beru know it.
 
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