Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

[Tuskin38]

I'm building that ship in 3d right now, and the people who modeled it cheaped out and left out Alot of stuff.. like a shuttle bay.. and a deflector dish

Here's the Deflector since the concept art didn't show it.

If anyone at all needs DSC Ship references, at least for Season 1 + the D7 and Connie, they're all in STO now, I can get some screenshots for you.

Now the texture won't be completely accurate, but the model Geo itself is pretty close as they can get with their polygon budget.

 

[thribs]

The Discovery is the bigger model, and it’s a bit more sturdier made. It’s also dearer than the Phase II model which is just regular sized.

 

[pst]

yeah i don't have the phase II model, but i've seen it in person and you'd be happier with the discovery. it's a damn good model.

 

[saddestmoon]

^^^ awesome! Thanks for the recommendations!

USS Discovery it is! huzzah!

Can I just say this: the TrekBBS EM starship forum community is fantastic! You all Rawk!

 

[valkyrie013]

@pst and Tuskin,
Much thanks! this helps alot!

 

[yotsuya]

Here's some of the pictures I used. Are they inaccurate in any way?

Yes, they are photos so you have to adjust for perspective. And it helps to have measurements. I have the length of the final configuration and the width of the saucer. The nacelles in particular are far smaller than the profile picture would indicate. I first created edits of the photos (and the Star Trek III card set and excellent top and bottom photos) that were adjusted for perspective. Fortunately the nacelles are almost on the same vertical plane as the saucer so the top and bottom have some excellent information. But I wasn't really able to nail down the relative proportions before I found the size of the saucer - just over 36 1/8". For the profile pictures I had to take the near nacelle an compare it to the far nacelle and then shrink it to the right size to match where the perspective lines (which I drew on the top and bottom views) indicated the proper length should be. It took me over a year and several attempts to get the right dimensions. I checked them by matching lines to various angles I could identify in the photos. They only dimension I am not 100% confident of is the height of the secondary hull. But the shape matches the final shot from Star Trek VI so if not exact, I am very very close.

 

[pst]

just a heads up for anyone ordering through the US site: don't use the paypal payment option, eagelmoss' system isn't receiving these orders but they are drawing the funds. i've been on the phone with them multiple times this week trying to sort it out, several people on the facebook group are experiencing similar issues.

eaglemoss strikes again.

 

[dantini]

Thanks for the information. Using the measurements of your corrected images indeed leads to some different results: The engineering hull of the Ed Giddings models is only 6% too wide and 10% too long. The neck is still about 30% too high and the nacelles sit 15% too low though. Additionally, the nacelles are now too long (10%) and possibly too far apart (6%). The proportions of the DS9 CGI model still seem to be closer to the studio model.

 

[yotsuya]

Ah, you found a version of my drawings faster than I did. Neat. I had some questions about what some of the measurements were and that puts it in a much better picture than I what I had calculated. I think the DS9 CGI model was based (possibly from hands on examination) of Greg Jein's model. I don't know what resources Greg had, but I do know he didn't have the original model. I think that is testament to how close he got (because I have so few photos of it and find the details to be enough off that it was of no use to me). Other than the wrongly lit nacelles, I always had problems telling it from the larger, original one.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I once saw photos taken of the Jein model when it was at Christie’s. Sadly, the top panel “strong back” wasn’t so strong and started buckling under the weight of the primary hull and nacelles. It was peeling off the lower half of the secondary hull and arcing upwards, with the fore-mentioned modules sagging downwards at the ends as they no longer had the requisite structural support. A sad state for a once nice looking model, irrespective of accuracy issues. No idea if the winner of that auction had it restored or not.

 

[dantini]

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Some confirmations:
- Vertical Romulan Warbird concept is coming
- Son'a Collector (might take a little longer)
- Discovery D7
- seven (!) different Section 31 ships
- Vulcan T'Plana Hath will be a Special (but why?)

 

[137th Gebirg]

The Vertibird! Right on!

 

[mindx2]

The Vertibird! Right on!

Is there a picture of this somewhere?

 

[137th Gebirg]

I did up a quick schematic based on a painting that Mr. Probert did for a Ships of the Line calendar several years ago. It’s an approximation, and I’m looking forward to getting better orthos on this. It is, in a word, a monster. The Aelignne-class Warbird:

 

[Unicron]

As much as I love the warbird, I've never liked the vertical rendition personally. It just doesn't seem to click as well as the canon horizontal version. YMMV of course.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I understand what Probert was trying to do, but I agree with the final decision to rotate it 90 degrees. A ship of that size and vertical orientation wouldn’t work well on the standard aspect ratio of most TV’s. Neat idea, though.

 

[Unicron]

Perhaps if it had become the canon orientation, I might view it differently. You never know. But I think the horizontal version is a really beautiful design.

 

[Dukhat]

seven (!) different Section 31 ships

Since there were only three types of S31 ships in DSC, perhaps the other four designs will be from this supposed Georgiou show, and not from ST:Picard.

 

[Tosk]

A ship of that size and vertical orientation wouldn’t work well on the standard aspect ratio of most TV’s.

In Probert's defense, when he designed it TVs were square so he had the same amount of vertical space to play with as he did horizontal.

 

[ExtremeSail]

Ben also said that he's confident they'll do the Kelvin background ships and revisit doing the Kelvin A!