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NFL 2019 Season

Don't forget that not only did he inherit Dungy's team, but Bill Callahan was so monumentally stupid that he didn't change the Raiders' playbook at all, so just from postseason game tape Gruden knew exactly what plays were coming on both sides of the ball just from the formations.
 
Timby said:
Don't forget that not only did he inherit Dungy's team, but Bill Callahan was so monumentally stupid that he didn't change the Raiders' playbook at all, so just from postseason game tape Gruden knew exactly what plays were coming on both sides of the ball just from the formations.
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I'll see if I can find it. But there is a story that after the Raiders had game planned and practiced for ten days, Bill Callahan threw it all out two days prior to the Super Bowl, which caused their center to go AWOL. :lol:
 
https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-xpm-2013-jan-22-la-sp-sn-tim-brown-super-bowl-20130122-story.html

“But the facts are what they are, that less than 36 hours before the game we changed our game plan. And we go into that game absolutely knowing that we have no shot. That the only shot we had if Tampa Bay didn’t show up.”

Oakland quarterback Rich Gannon completed 24 of 44 passes for 272 yards, two touchdowns and five interceptions. Brown had one reception for nine yards. Meanwhile, the Raiders attempted just 11 running plays.
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BillJ said:
I'll see if I can find it. But there is a story that after the Raiders had game planned and practiced for ten days, Bill Callahan threw it all out two days prior to the Super Bowl, which caused their center to go AWOL. :lol:
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I don't recall the center going AWOL but I definitely remember reports of Callahan reverting to the Raiders' basic playbook because Gannon was having issues with arm strength and the offensive line having problems with the blocking schemes they were trying to implement against what they thought Tampa was going to throw at them.
 
It was Barrett Robbins...

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Of Course, here in Cincinnati, we had Stanley Wilson go on a cocaine snorting spree the night before Super Bowl XXIII.
 
BillJ said:
You did go to the playoffs with Mack on the roster, and he sure seemed to make a difference for a team that knows how to use him.

Imagine how much better the Raiders defense would be with Mack still on the roster?
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We went to the playoffs one year while we had Mack. The year after, we had a losing record and looked bereft of talent. Presumably, that is the reason Gruden decided on a tear down and rebuild.

It's not just a matter of knowing how to use Mack, you have to have enough complementary players around him in order for your D to take maximum advantage of Khalil's talent.

The Bears haven't miraculously figured out how to use him, they just have better players around him which makes their overall D more effective. Mack was much more valuable to a team that already had a good D, than to a defense that only had him.

I'de love to have him back on the Raiders, but that would take Raiders back to where we were 2 years ago personnel wise. Better to be moving forward.
fireproof78 said:
Can't believe the Hawks traded for Clowney. I hope it works out.
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Clowney has a chance of revitalizing their entire defense.
BillJ said:
I will never understand that deal. Take away the Super Bowl he won with Dungy's team, and he was sub-.500 in Tampa.
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Gruden got that deal because it was the only way to pry him out of the booth. The reason the Raiders offered it was because Gruden had once turned a mess of a Raiders team into a legit Super Bowl contender within 2-3 years. He then left and took a Tampa Bay team that hadn't been able to get to the SB under a pretty good coach, straight to the SB in his first year with them. And as we know, he beat the very Raiders team he previously built, in that SB.

Who knows if he'll be able to turn this Raiders team into a winner, but Gruden has the pedigree.

You seem to have this thing that makes you rebel against the notion that the Raiders might be on the right track. Maybe since you've been watching the NFL the Raiders have always been terrible. I get that. It was the biggest shock in the world to me when the Steelers became SB winners in the 70's and the Pats in the 00's. But weird things like this do happen.
Timby said:
but Bill Callahan was so monumentally stupid
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No argument here. Calahan rode what Gruden built into the Super Bowl and then showed his ass.
 
This is objectively awesome.

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The Interception Calendar had me laughing out loud, for real.
 
Anyone want to post their Super Bowl LIV predictions?

I’ve got the LA Chargers playing Seattle.
 
gblews said:
You seem to have this thing that makes you rebel against the notion that the Raiders might be on the right track. Maybe since you've been watching the NFL the Raiders have always been terrible.
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I talk about whatever the story of the day is. I've talked about the Clowney trade, the Gordon holdout, the crash-and-burn "we aren't tanking" Dolphins, Stanley Wilson's night before the Super Bowl cocaine "party".

The Raiders haven't always been terrible, I watched Marcus Allen run all over the Washington Redskins in Super Bowl XVIII. Been around for quite a bit. :techman:
 
Antonio Brown faces discipline after an altercation with GM Mike Mayock.
 
He's like Albert Haynesworth from back in the day. The gift of dumpster fire entertainment that just keeps on giving. :lol:
 
I just hope the Raiders don't do something stupid like cutting Brown. The guy is just too good.
 
gblews said:
I just hope the Raiders don't do something stupid like cutting Brown. The guy is just too good.
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He is an all time great. Though part of the issue with keeping him is the team ready to have a set of rules for him and a set for the rest of the team? Brown seems sensitive to any kind of criticism, which helped unravel the Steelers last year.

I don’t know the right answer, but I do think he could just as easily unravel your season as help it.
 
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