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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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What do you think a possible future is?

A future is your life forward from now in time to the end.

A timeline is your life forward (and backward) from now in time to the end (and beginning).



Removing a stone splits the timeline in two, one where it's taken, and one where it is not. A timeline with less infinity stones is unstable/weak.

Above I just noted that there can be a new timeline created from NOT taking a stone.

2013 Thanos was murdered in the present (2024), so (2013) Thanos is never going to collect the Stones and blink the universe, even though the present (2024) is a universe where that exactly did happen.

Old Nebula killed her youngself.

Changing the past does not effect the present.

Doctor Strange checked Fourteen million six hundred and five timelines. Was every one of those timelines the result of an infinity stone being stolen away to a neighbouring timeline? Or can new timelines be generated by any and every choice and NOT just only taking a stone elsewhere?

I'm happy with what you are saying -- but it is not the only interpretation of this. I just mentioned the difference in my mind between potential future and alternate timeline--and to my memory no where in the film does it specifically say alternate timelines are created when you travel to the past except when the Ancient One discusses removing the stones. I would be happy to concede the argument if somebody can find dialogue that says otherwise.

As for the events that are changed--they are changed in timelines that have already been affected by the Avengers taking the stones thus when the stones are returned those timelines collapse as if they had never existed. Gamora seems to be some kind of time remnant from a timeline that no longer exists.
 
How about Cap from an almost completely identical timeline came to our past and lived a life with our Peggy. Our Cap went to the past of the other timeline and lived a life with that Peggy.

Neither is aware of the change, it's undetectable. They might swap timelines back at some point, they might not. What's the difference ?
 
How about Cap from an almost completely identical timeline came to our past and lived a life with our Peggy. Our Cap went to the past of the other timeline and lived a life with that Peggy.

Neither is aware of the change, it's undetectable. They might swap timelines back at some point, they might not. What's the difference ?
That still requires at least one Steve Rogers to sit around with his thumb up his arse while someone shoots Martin Luther King Jr.
So not "almost identical" so much as "an entirely dissimilar person that Peggy would probably never fall in love with in the first place." ;)

Yes, actually: https://www.theringer.com/movies/20...avel-david-deutsch-proposition-scott-aaronson

Also mentioned in that article is that although the dialogue states the timelines only diverge when the stones are taken, the other timelines appear to form--but it is really unclear what is happening--up to interpretation of the viewer.
That's adorable.
 
That is the worst thing that they could possibly have chosen to do. I'll give Watts and Holland a chance to convince me with trailers (assuming they don't get replaced) but that really kills a lot of interest in those movies.
 
This is really disheartening to hear. Far From Home ended in a way where I was looking forward to the spider man films going forward. Does this mean they can’t even mention anything in the MCU, and no more Happy?
 
I just hope that Amy Pascal retains creative control at Sony and no creative control is back given back to Avi Arad.
 
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