Journey to Babel Deforest Kelley Smoking

[Maurice]

Or when they got rid of straightforward establishing shots of the Enterprise orbiting a planet in favor of a version that zoomed in so close to the ship that you weren't really sure what you were looking at. (The TOS-R people were really fond of this shot for some reason, and I'll never know why. It looked like crap.)

I just looked at the POS again and...

1. Why is the Enterprise so scuffed up?
2. I just noticed the grilles on nacelle pylons are planted on instead of actually inset as they are on the actual filming miniature. As if that would have been difficult to do.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Why is the Enterprise so scuffed up?

My supposition is that the TOS-R people are showing off how they can establish that the ship's been through a rough storm.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

My supposition is that the TOS-R people are showing off how they can establish that the ship's been through a rough storm.

That's right. You can also see some "soot" on the saucer section in that episode. Textbook ion storm.
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x20hd/courtmartialhd001.jpg

 

[Timo]

Not that it has to be justified, but I think the reason Sarek and/or Amanda were not there at Amok time is either:

• Such wonton displays of emotion are embarrassing enough without your immediate family there, especially since humans do not seem super welcome
• Sarek was off Diplomatting somewhere and there was not enough time for him to scoot back to Vulcan to glower at his estranged son

• Or, say, Sarek and Spock are not in speaking terms. At all. So even glowering is completely out of the question.

And while Amanda might beg to differ, she does walk two steps behind her husband.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Hmm. When I try to follow the Trekcore links, I get a screen saying that the domain has been suspended pending ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) verification. Strange.

 

[Mysterion]

So, when you write "probably," you don't actually mean probably, and it doesn't mean you're basing your opinion on any source. Got it.

What should we use if we're literally being figurative?

 

[johnnybear]

Not that it has to be justified, but I think the reason Sarek and/or Amanda were not there at Amok time is either:

• Such wonton displays of emotion are embarrassing enough without your immediate family there, especially since humans do not seem super welcome
• Sarek was off Diplomatting somewhere and there was not enough time for him to scoot back to Vulcan to glower and his estranged son

That or maybe he hadn't tied up all his work at the Babel conference if Amok is shown after journey?
JB

 

[M'Sharak]

Hmm. When I try to follow the Trekcore links, I get a screen saying that the domain has been suspended pending ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) verification. Strange.

I've been getting the same thing for last 2-3 days.

If you try to go direct to the TrekCore site, there's this notice:

(Click image to embiggen)

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Just tried it again, and the site is back now.

 

[M'Sharak]

Just tried it again, and the site is back now.

It was sorta half-there for me last night — lots of links missing, image embeds not working, etc., 404's for some pages and still got the ICANN notice when I tried to go to the main page — but seems to be much better this morning.

 

[Noname Given]

The original lack of ships in the series was usually explained as the other vessel was at extreme range whilst the cartoon CGI ships made a pigs ear of the episode eight times out of ten! This is never more evident than in Elaan of Troyius where the new Klingon ship is flat compared to the old fantastic version!
JB

The D-7 digital model is TERRIBLE compared to the original Klingon D-7 model (IMO) and I also liked the way the original ship's disruptors firing animation from the D-7 nacelles looked as compared to the 'goop' like shot of Disruptor fire they did in the remastered version of "Elaan of Troyius" YMMV.

(And I usually prefer CGI over model work, but IMO they were either really rushed or the group doing the CGI on many a TOS-R episode made some very poor shot composition and texture choices for the D-7 across a number of TOS-R episodes.)

 

[johnnybear]

They certainly did! The only CGI animation I liked to be honest was the wreck of the Constellation in The Doomsday Machine! Not the new Planet Killer! They improved the back of the melted nacelle too but that's it for me to be honest!
JB