It was well-made and well-executed.... at least from my point of view and the point of view of the countless others who enjoyed it.
The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?
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It was well-made and well-executed.... at least from my point of view and the point of view of the countless others who enjoyed it.
yeah i LOVE the editing.. like when the wide shot show's Rose's podracer heading back to the big door yet the next shot she is actually ramming Finn's ship from the side. I love how they don't get shot at at all the two mile trek back to the door. Love how Phasma is standing right over Finn and then after the collision she walks in to the door again.. superb craftsmenship
I love it how Finn says tracking through light speed is impossible yet five minutes later he;'s like.. "I know exactly how it's done and by the way did you see that i have a full schematic of the supremacy"
^ You don't have to like the movie, but quit trying to antagonize those who do with your stupidly sarcastic and witless comments.
Nah, I like the movie, my friend. I like everything that has a STar wars logo on it, even though it';s long past the time when the franchise was innovative or charming or exciting .. it's star wars and it is great JUST because it has the logo on it.. just because they are trying to do something oh so profound and angsty .. that makes it great
You and I must have watched different films then...
Sorry, my friend. All the hate in the world isn't going to decrease my enjoyment of this film.
see .. as long as they are trying for angst.. as long as they are trying to conform to the heady cynicism .. it doesn't matter whether or not they actually put together a good script with memorable dialogue, a clear through-line for the story, or any of that.. and it doesn't matter if they ignore the spirit of teamwork and camaraderie of the old films, none of that matters .. because all that matters is angst.. depression, and and cynicism. All that matters is seeing an archetype hero that kids look up standing over his nephew in anger with his sword drawn instead of talking to him .. that's what matters.
If that is all that is seen then that is truly missing the point. If all that is taken away is cynicism then the film certainly has failed to convey its message.
I truly hope to never fail again as others have apparently do not fail. Until then, I will take solace in seeing a character I grew up with learn from his failure.
like i was saying there are plenty of assholes in movies out there.. if i wanted to watch them i'd watch The Departed. I go to SW for my heroes.. they are not perfect but that's what i go for.. and I think we should have stronger standards for our heroes now more than ever,.. but even in the context of the story.. Luke would not do this.. just don't buy it. at all.. oh and even if i did, i would not find it entertaining.. or challenging.. just a tone deaf writer tuned out the spirit of what STar Wars has been
let us not even start on the mary sue in the room LOL
I'd be careful if I were you about calling George Lucas "tone-deaf" and "tuned out of the spirit of what Star Wars has been".
and by the way even if i loved the Luke stuff (which I don't) it's all about how it was executed, and how it fits into the film. But the film was an overstuffed mess with terrible writing and contrived plots.. so why should i like it ?
obviously i was referring to RJ and KK .. but maybe you didn't catch that
Tone deaf? I already dealt with that in TPM, and the character shredding of Obi-Wan in the PT. And the Jedi were no heroes in the PT either. Standards for heroes? What garbage.
Also, just because people don't "buy" it doesn't mean the character isn't possible for it. I refuse to expect perfection of my fictional heroes.
Except George Lucas came up with the concepts that drive Luke's story... or maybe you didn't catch that.
LOL i never said i wanted perfection. But heroes don't go around thinking of killing their sleeping nephews.
sure and Gene Roddenberry came up with Spock's story.. so.. should i imply that he came up with the stuff they wrote in Discovery Season 2.. did he have anything to do with that tripe? Your point is nonsensical
He reacted to the Dark Side. Like all Jedi have done in the past. And then hesitated. Almost like that time he tried to kill Vader and then stopped himself. It's so weird..like, people can make the same mistake sometimes in their life.
A student is not greater than his master.
oh, and heroes don't leave "brothers" to burn in a lava field.
How, exactly, is the 100% accurate statement that the concept of Luke as a disillusioned hermit hiding away in a cave was proposed and approved by George Lucas "nonsensical" ?
well of course you did not take into account any of the context of the RotJ scene. The word "provoked" never entered your vocabulary. the idea that the writers of RotJ were ending the story by challenging the hero.. putting it all on the line.. showing us what could (but ultimately didn't) cause him to snap. Because you do those kinds of things as all threads come together in your climax. But the execution such as it was in TLJ was piss poor. 30 year time gaps ans snoke "getting to him first" don't cover it, because in the film's own admission, Snoke is a cypher and not a character