Robert Picardo to return for Picard

[Awesome Possum]

White privilege is just not having to deal with issues that affect people of color. It’s not a value judgment. It doesn’t mean your life is easier or harder, you just don’t have to deal with certain things. Most of us live in relatively free countries, we can post here freely and don’t have to worry about being censored like someone living someone else. We aren’t terrible because of it.

The same goes for straight white men. They aren’t evil, oppressing everyone, or necessarily doing anything wrong. They just have less shit to worry about than people of color, women, LGBTQ people or anyone else. It’s not saying they have it easier or that they don’t have their own disadvantages because your economic status does affect how you’re treated, but most likely they aren’t going to have to deal with sexism, racism or bigotry throughout society. It’s like stats in D&D. White guys just have a lot of 20s.

 

[KennyB]

Of course we do. Being much more unlikely to be shot by police is white privilege for example.
White privilege isn’t just obvious advantages. It’s also the absence of many disadvantages white people aren’t even aware of because they take their absence for granted.

* In America.......

 

[Spot261]

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[Manticore]

* In America.......

@{ Emilia }'s not American.

 

[KennyB]

@{ Emilia }'s not American.

Of course we do. Being much more unlikely to be shot by police is white privilege for example.

Doesn't matter where she's from....I don't hear much about cops shooting innocent non-white people anywhere else. Do you? Seriously, is it a problem anywhere else? I never stated she WAS American.

 

[Trekkin]

Doesn't matter where she's from....I don't hear much about cops shooting innocent non-white people anywhere else. Do you? Seriously, is it a problem anywhere else? I never stated she WAS American.

Yes.

Aboriginal Australians. The non-white population in France. The Romani just about everywhere. Basically any and every native population, post-colonisation...

Anyone thinking it’s just an ‘American’ thing, are part of the problem. Just because it’s not cancer, doesn’t mean that you’re not sick.

 

[KennyB]

Yes.

Aboriginal Australians. The non-white population in France. The Romani just about everywhere. Basically any and every native population, post-colonisation...

Anyone thinking it’s just an ‘American’ thing, are part of the problem. Just because it’s not cancer, doesn’t mean that you’re not sick.

People are being shot by police in all those locations? I just moved from Cambridge England to Southern Germany........I have not heard about these police shootings.

 

[Trekkin]

Yes.

And are beaten or choked to death. Or bleed to death from purposefully untreated wounds. Or ‘mysteriously’ die in holding. They just ‘interact’ more with police in general.

(Can’t forget South American countries like Mexico or Brazil either.)

America has more shootings specifically, because Americans love their fucking guns. Most countries don’t arm their flat foots like a fucking SEAL.

But police brutality being expressed a different way elsewhere, isn’t because white men lack privilege in every other country.

 

[Spot261]

Yes.

Aboriginal Australians. The non-white population in France. The Romani just about everywhere. Basically any and every native population, post-colonisation...

Anyone thinking it’s just an ‘American’ thing, are part of the problem. Just because it’s not cancer, doesn’t mean that you’re not sick.

Pretty sure it's a bit of a thing in South Africa

 

[KennyB]

America has more shootings specifically, because Americans love their fucking guns. Most countries don’t arm their flat foots like a fucking SEAL.

Emilia said "Being much more unlikely to be shot by police is white privilege for example" that's what confused me and why I asked if that was happening in other places.........When Manticore jumped in and said she wasn't American.

 

[Trekkin]

You are still more likely to be shot if you’re non-white. Just not as likely, as that same person would in the US. They’re still at a disadvantage compared to everyone else!

‘Privilege’ ain’t the oppression Olympics.

 

[Spot261]

Emilia said "Being much more unlikely to be shot by police is white privilege for example" that's what confused me and why I asked if that was happening in other places.........When Manticore jumped in and said she wasn't American.

I'm not from the Mushroom Kingdom, but I am bald, just like Toad and Robert Picardo so the company's good at least.

Shit happens, just mostly to other people.

Oh, sorry, language!

 

[CorporalClegg]

I'm all about more diversity. Even post-Rey and Diana, and the Danverses and Thortman and Hidden Figures and Chadwick and Mahershala and Crazy Rich Asians and Burnham. It's still not enough. Not remotely. Even all the "progress" shown in Endgame, it was still mostly a sausagefest.

And I agree that the world could benefit from fewer straight white dudes in lead roles. But of all the really popular (dare I say "iconic") nerd culture straight white dudes of the last half-century to object to -- Jean-Luc Fucking Picard? Seriously?

 

[XCV330]

 

[Manticore]

Emilia said "Being much more unlikely to be shot by police is white privilege for example" that's what confused me and why I asked if that was happening in other places.........When Manticore jumped in and said she wasn't American.

I did not read this as a question:

* In America.......

Going back on-topic, I'm generally not a fan of Voyager, but The Doctor is a huge exception. I'm excited at the prospect of his getting onto Picard!

Spoiler: Not Being of fan of Voyager

I generally don't mind Seven, though sometimes I find her a bit annoying.

 

[mos6507]

once straight white males go through a few hundred years of social opression like every other social group I'll be cool with them. Until then they are bottom of my list.

Looks like someone needs to read Animal Farm. Then watch Let That Be Your Last Battlefield for a lesson in the term "zero...sum...game."

BTW, I'm starting to lose track of how many threads here have devolved into 100+ pages of "SJWs vs. the world!". The demographics of the average Trekkie has deteriorated severely thanks to Kelvin and Discovery.

 

[Galaxy]

White is ok

Straight is ok

Male is ok

All 3 combined is the WORST, a combination of 2 is iffy, only 1 is fine

There are white, straight, males that are homeless on the street.

 

[Lord Garth]

Going back on-topic, I'm generally not a fan of Voyager, but The Doctor is a huge exception. I'm excited at the prospect of his getting onto Picard!

Spoiler: Not Being of fan of Voyager

I generally don't mind Seven, though sometimes I find her a bit annoying.

It seems kind of hopeless to get the thread back on topic at this point...

... but on the off-chance it can be salvaged: The Doctor and Seven were my favorite parts about Voyager, so I'm glad they'll make it to Picard.

There was a continuing story in the background running through TNG, DS9, and VOY, starting with Minuet, moving on to Moriarty, then continuing on with The Doctor and Vic Fontaine about the sentience of holograms and, of course, AI's in general with Data, Lore, and B-4. So seeing how that continued to develop would be a story worth covering. Including the roadblocks, which VOY S7 started to show with what happened to the EHM Mark 1s and the struggle The Doctor went through in "Author, Author" just to be able to claim ownership of a holonovel he authored. The idea of The Doctor fighting for personhood is something Data would be sympathetic to.

 

[Galaxy]

... but on the off-chance it can be salvaged: The Doctor and Seven were my favorite parts about Voyager, so I'm glad they'll make it to Picard.

That duo was great! I am now hoping for some Garak/Bashir, Odo/Quark.