It's a certainty that the show will not resurrect such obscure, deep cut plot points from "Voyager."
New Picard SDCC Trailer
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It's a certainty that the show will not resurrect such obscure, deep cut plot points from "Voyager."
1: I know but the tone of the trailer is just... Wrong? It doesn't look or feel like.Star Trek, looks just like Discovery and Into Darkness and the Expanse and all other grimdark SciFi of the past decade.
2: You can see the Kurtzman/Bad Robot all through the trailer especially in the last third. If this is anything like Discovery it's going to be a show where the story and direction is dictated between 20% the actual writers and 80% the 3 billion producers. Discovery had good SciFi writers on staff as well, didn't stop it from being a terribly written trainwreck in the exact same way everything that Kurtzman touches is.
Look I hope I'm wrong, but I predicted my red flags with the first teaser and they're basically all here, another dark modern mystery box action melodrama. Yawn.
7 of 9 is a main character. And we know that because she also appears in another, unrelated scene in the trailer than just that one opposite Picard. So, IMO, all bets are now off at this point on exactly what parts of what Star Trek shows it may find some way to reference/cherry pick. It could end up being a love letter to the whole Next Generation Trek era.
At least you didn't say "Valentine".
Yeah there's definitely a difference 
A valentine would probably be *too* obsessed with trying to 'be' the past. To it's detriment. 
This one is definitely a Trek for today, writing a letter to a past love and praising it and using it as a inspiration, but most certainly looking forwards to the future. Or that's the vibe I got out of the trailer, anyway. 
I dunno if we can conclude that Seven is a main character. Only perhaps that she has an "episode" at the very least.
Well, she's not a main character, she's recurring at best. Being in two scenes doesn't make you a "main character."
And given that Stewart had very rigid rules about what he wanted the show NOT to be - no wearing a SF uniform, not showing a reunion of the full crew, not it being a retread of TNG, I think it's safe to say it's not going to feature "love letter" style fan service just for the sake of it.
To my initial point, dredging up very minor yet very specific plot points from musty old Voyager episodes is not something that anyone working on the show is going to be interested in, nor is it the way to make a fresh and accessible show to a wide audience.
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That is both interesting as well as explains how the trailer felt so off to me. It felt highly nostalgic in terms of characters being brought back and possible plot points.
It is encouraging to me your observations. It means that perhaps Picard will not lean so heavily on fan service and go forward the way I had thought based upon Kurtzman's comments.
Slightly less jaded now.
Your post has three strikes against it already:
1. It makes sense.
2. You're defending something made after 2000.
3. It requires people to be patient and not jump to conclusions.
These people need to watch "Calypso" so they have some sense of what Michael Chabon is capable of, but they won't.
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Kurtzman is a self-declared continuity nerd. He laid the groundwork for ST:P and probably wrote most of the series Bible before Chabon took over.
Regardless of what you may think about the visual reimagining of 1701 (which I love, but others didn't), and the Klingons and other things (which were changed before he was the showrunner) the conclusion of Season 2 nudged Discovery back towards consistency with the rest of Star Trek canon. That was his thing. He drove that.
It is known that he's keen draw on the rest of Star Trek film/TV lore for Picard and not push as many people's buttons with radical departures this time.
So I don't think it's unreasonable to expect things to crop up from across our universe. The very appearance of Seven of Nine tells us that the Borg stories from Voyager aren't being ignored or played down. Who knows what other plot points might show up? Obviously characters and old plot points will need to be re-introduced, it would be silly of them to write it expecting every viewer to have seen every episode of every series, but they can still use the last 53 years worth of material.
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.... So is this how Picard escapes the Nexus?
If Kurtzman was the one pushing for these different elements to interconnect the various series then I'll begrudgingly be willing to see where he takes it. If he is doing it to mollify the fan base then I'll be a little more restrictive with my praise.
We can't have a positive vibe! That'd be cheesy and corny! What kind of sci-fi has a positive vibe?
Eh, she does seem a little awesome.
This post needs to be stickied. Patience and making sense are two things that lack here and elsewhere in fandom in general.
Saying that something doesn't "feel like Star Trek" is a meaningless statement. If the show/movie has the words "Star Trek" in the title, then it's Star Trek regardless of how one feels about it.
More meaningless drivel.
You're probably wrong.
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