Spoilers Combined Star Trek SDCC Coverage thread (potential Disco S2 spoilers)

[eschaton]

Then why give it a 3rd season? You don't give another season to a show that's not working.

Why was Enterprise given a third season? Surely you don't think the first two seasons of Enterprise "worked" do you?

 

[Infern0]

I'm not seeing it.

It's wishful thinking

But wanting something to be true isn't going to make it true

It really pains me to say it but Discovery is in a desperate state, it really saddens me to admit that.

This next season may well be it's last.

 

[Vger23]

DSC will probably spontaneously combust 5 min into the premier of PIC.

That may be being generous to be honest.

 

[Infern0]

My mind reading skills are a bit lacking. So I can't speak to motivations.
They're still pumping out Short Treks in the 23rd.

Worked for TNG.
Not sure of the Math there
Season One was Fuller. Then Harberts and Berg
Season Two was Harberts and Berg and then Kurtzman then Kurtzman and Paradise.
Season Three is Paradise.
So we have

1. Fuller (Season 1)
2. Harberts and Berg (Season 1 & part of 2)
3. Kurtzman/Paradise (Part of Season 2)
4. Paradise (Season 3)
5. ?????????????

Yeah but the thing is TNG was succesful

 

[Nerys Myk]

True. Though note that they're all Pike/Spock/Number 1 shorts. Well, the Tribble one may just have a cameo by Pike.

I think there is a Pike one. A Number One/Spock one and four others.

Initially I was going to say four, but I wasn't sure how I should count co-showrunners Harberts/Berg, so I decided to count each individually, meaning a total of five showrunners have worked on the series to date.

Harbert/Berg count as one since they were a team. Fuller might not even count since he was out so fast

 

[Nerys Myk]

Why was Enterprise given a third season? Surely you don't think the first two seasons of Enterprise "worked" do you?

Worked for me. It's my third favorite Trek.

 

[Vger23]

It's wishful thinking

But wanting something to be true isn't going to make it true

I agree there's a lot of seemingly wishful thinking going on.

But I actually think @Tuskin38 is not the one who should be on the end of that accusation.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah but the thing is TNG was succesful

You still have to prove DISCO is not. Saying a thing does not make it so.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yeah but the thing is TNG was succesful

So is Discovery.

 

[Vger23]

You still have to prove DISCO is not. Saying a thing does not make it so.

You must be new to the internet.

 

[Infern0]

You still have to prove DISCO is not. Saying a thing does not make it so.

We both know it isn't.

TNG was all over mainstream tv in the 90s, Discovery has a niche audience of hardcore fans. It's apples and oranges.

 

[Tuskin38]

It really pains me to say it but Discovery is in a desperate state, it really saddens me to admit that.

This next season may well be it's last.

You keep saying that but have yet to provide any damn proof. Stop making claims without backing them up.

You words are meaningless without it. It sounds to me that you're just here to stir up trouble.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You must be new to the internet.

Well in this era...

 

[Vger23]

I think everyone will be amazed to see that both shows will coexist and compliment each other nicely, despite some people's bizarre need to have the CBSAA Deathmatch unfold.

See also: Orville and Discovery

 

[fireproof78]

We both know it isn't.

TNG was all over mainstream tv in the 90s, Discovery has a niche audience of hardcore fans. It's apples and oranges.

As do many shows nowadays. Completely different ballgame, and CBS knows it.

Also, proof is needed for such claims of DISCO's lack of success. As in hard facts, data, numbers, etc. Not random opining on the Interwebz.

 

[Cake]

Picard has a very limited shelf-life. And even if it didn't, it's banking on currency that doesn't have long-term ROI. Frankly, the probability of Disco season four (or even five) is still much greater than Picard season two.

https://trekmovie.com/2019/02/04/pa...picard-series-is-set-up-to-run-three-seasons/

Patrick Stewart Says Star Trek Picard Series Is Set Up To Run Three Seasons

As long as Patrick Stewart stays healthy, I really don't see PIC getting less than three seasons. I just don't see how it can be such a failure. I am sure Amazon is also paying CBS a lot for the international rights.

 

[eschaton]

I think there is a Pike one. A Number One/Spock one and four others.

I think it was said today that out of the four live action Short Treks three involve the Pike Enterprise and one is a Picard prequel. The other two are animated. No sign of a Discovery Short Trek.

 

[Tosk]

Note though, the Romulans messing with Borg tech came from Countdown first, which Kurtzman was part of IIRC.

Wasn't there Romulan/Borg stuff in the Shatner books even before that? I haven't read them so I could be wrong, but it feels familiar.

 

[Infern0]

Wasn't there Romulan/Borg stuff in the Shatner books even before that? I haven't read them so I could be wrong, but it feels familiar.

Yup the Romulus and borg made an alliance and a reanimated Jame's T Kirk saved the galaxy by pulling a big red lever

Love those books

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Also, proof is needed for such claims of DISCO's lack of success. As in hard facts, data, numbers, etc. Not random opining on the Interwebz.

Too much to ask for these days!