Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)
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Let’s hold our horses. It’s only definite canon if it’s readable in an episode. Remember the closeup photos of Georgiou’s TOS episode-titled books on her ready room shelf? Not readily discernible in an episode.
It could be similar to the discussion about the Archer and Sato biographies from “In a Mirror, Darkly”.
Hopefully in Collateral Damage Picard gets promoted to an Admiral, and he is unhappy with that and quits. The inquiry into the s31 could absolve Picard of any wrong-doing and he believes he is wrongly promoted as Akaar uses him for public relations and is touted to the public as the ideal for officer upholding the ideals of Starfleet and the Federation. That could tie in with the audio on the first trailer asking who did Picard lose faith in.
Hopefully he’s an Admiral by the end of Collateral Damage and then we can hold out hope that all the shows to come will not completely contradict the last 20 years of the Star Trek Novelverse.
Hopefully he’s an Admiral by the end of Collateral Damage and then we can hold out hope that all the shows to come will not completely contradict the last 20 years of the Star Trek Novelverse.
If the 2381 date becomes Canon, will there be a story reconning the last several years, or just get to the Hobus event in sync?
That would be confusing for casual audiences.
I think calling the litverse “Thanos snapped” is overly dramatic. Okay, it’s no longer the course of post-Nemesis Trek, but even back when it all started, this was always a risk. Like, when the Avatar duology was released, it was 2001, before Nemesis was released. A line of dialogue in reference to any character from DS9 could have invalidated it all - Bashir died, Dax resigned, Quark finally got his moon... that was a risk inherent to the medium, because the books were always a supplement to the screen versions.
No one’s coming to take away the books of the last twenty years off your shelves, they’re not going to disintegrate. They’re just now in an alternate continuity, just like the Kelvinverse.
Do I regret the now-very real likelihood of not getting another tale involving characters like Christine Vale or T’Ryssa Chen? Absolutely, I love them like they were canon. But they’re still there in the stories that exist. They’re still out there. Hell, if any franchise is built around the ability to run multiple continuities producing new content simultaneously, Star Trek is certainly capable of it, so we may still see SOMETHING, even if it’s more limited than it had been.
And, as someone who’s always been big on what if stories, I’m genuinely interested in seeing new takes on the same period of time.
No one’s coming to take away the books of the last twenty years off your shelves, they’re not going to disintegrate. They’re just now in an alternate continuity, just like the Kelvinverse.
Do I regret the now-very real likelihood of not getting another tale involving characters like Christine Vale or T’Ryssa Chen? Absolutely, I love them like they were canon. But they’re still there in the stories that exist. They’re still out there. Hell, if any franchise is built around the ability to run multiple continuities producing new content simultaneously, Star Trek is certainly capable of it, so we may still see SOMETHING, even if it’s more limited than it had been.
And, as someone who’s always been big on what if stories, I’m genuinely interested in seeing new takes on the same period of time.
There won't be.
If the 2381 date is canon, then that's it for 24th century Lit Con. It's done. Period.
Actually, that's likely the case anyway. And, you know what, we all knew this day was coming. It was inevitable.
The casuals don’t read the books. All you need is to label them appropriately
If it is canon, then they'll just have disregard everything the books have done at least going back to then, and start over using whatever the show reveals.
I'm still holding out hope that they could decide the books are popular enough to continue as an alternate universe, alongside the Picard consistent books, but realistically I know there's only like a 0.00000001% chance of that happening. Hell, it's probably lower than that, but it's still not completely impossible.
Just think of all the new stories that could be told between Nemesis and Picard. New stories that can be told. I'm sure cbs products will want to go after casual readers who dont want to be weighed down by 15+ years of book continuity. It will be star wars legends all over again.
MOD NOTE: While i think of it, I'm going to mark this thread with a spoiler warning. It's spoilers for the TV show that are to be expected here. Please be careful about spoilers of recent books.
(I know the TV show hasn't started yet, but there will be reveals at trailers etc. Spoilers for any of those are allowed - that's what this thread is for.)
Be VERY careful about mentioning the TV series in any of the other Lit threads. Spoiler code everything. No-one reading other threads in this forum should worry about avoiding TV spoilers
(I know the TV show hasn't started yet, but there will be reveals at trailers etc. Spoilers for any of those are allowed - that's what this thread is for.)
Be VERY careful about mentioning the TV series in any of the other Lit threads. Spoiler code everything. No-one reading other threads in this forum should worry about avoiding TV spoilers
If only there was a line of Trek novels pretty much custom designed to reset the timeline and alter Treklit history...
It would be a bit of a headache, since it's already established that the novelverse is the only timeline where the Borg doesn't win and where the Omega Continuum doesn't annihilate everything. But maybe they (and other contradictions, akin to how Star Trek Online: The Needs of the Many referenced the novelverse as an alternate timeline) can be ignored
It would be a bit of a headache, since it's already established that the novelverse is the only timeline where the Borg doesn't win and where the Omega Continuum doesn't annihilate everything. But maybe they (and other contradictions, akin to how Star Trek Online: The Needs of the Many referenced the novelverse as an alternate timeline) can be ignored
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Omega Continuum kind of a multiversal thing and stopping it in the novelverse also stopped it in all other timelines?If only there was a line of Trek novels pretty much custom designed to reset the timeline and alter Treklit history...
It would be a bit of a headache, since it's already established that the novelverse is the only timeline where the Borg doesn't win and where the Omega Continuum doesn't annihilate everything. But maybe they (and other contradictions, akin to how Star Trek Online: The Needs of the Many referenced the novelverse as an alternate timeline) can be ignored
As far as Borg victory goes, did any novel specify when it has to happen? Because, otherwise we can always just assume it happened a couple centures later.
Considering they've already got All Good Things...' "established" future to iron out (although I'm assuming if they even go there they'll explain it away as an alternate Q reality) it wouldn't surprise me if they do take one moment to basically say "this time line isn't the same as other possibilities" or some such....
All Good Things (the future bit) never happened - that's the whole point of the Poker game at the end - the future is not set and none of the characters know what the future will hold. Worf and Riker do everything but look directly at the viewer while explaining this.
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I'm looking forward to this, it's no doubt going to happen - particularly the promotion from Captain to Admiral and retirement
