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Spoilers Amazon's Good Omens mini-series

jeez. These people make the Chattering Order look like a MENSA gathering. They'll probably take the lack of a second season as a victory for their cause.
 
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Sure...right up to the point when they point to the "Good Omens campaign" as an example of their good work and someone points out the obvious. And let's be clear here: There are several obvious points of stupidity here. :lol:
 
I think it’s disingenous to label ‘Christians’ as the defining aspect....really it’s American Christians, from a specific chunk in the Bible Belt.
Christians mostly probably like Good Omens for a start. (Various Christian review websites of both book and film have been complimentary)
But 21st century eh. What you gonna do.
 
Turtletrekker said:
jeez. These people make the Chattering Order look like a MENSA gathering. They'll probably take the lack of a second season as a victory for their cause.
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I think this is a "sign" we'll get a second season. If for no other reason than to make their heads explode.
 
Ar-Pharazon said:
I think this is a "sign" we'll get a second season. If for no other reason than to make their heads explode.
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See...I thought hmm, there’s some stuff not in the book in here...and you can kinda go on from it....
Then I thought really hard, and there’s just nowhere for it to go that doesn’t weaken this series. I mean...Agnes knew they would burn the prophecies, so maybe she sent another, but that undoes that line...you can’t have a second apocalypse, that would be silly...you can’t build a second great conflict between heaven and hell because what would be the point having one averted? Adam and co can’t be dealt with again, because that story had its point....really all you are left with is the further adventures of Crowley and Aziraphale, and...without the the flashbacks? Because that was all building to what we have already seen.

We would basically have a sort of camp English Highlander the TV series, with nothing to really hang it on unless it goes a bit Supernatural/Buffy. It would only damage the one and done nature of Good Omens.

You could stretch out ‘and that was only the beginning of the birth pains’ but you really aren’t going to be able to do anything biblical without totally making it moot.

Better off just hoping the Watch Discworld series finally gets out of the ninth circle of development he’ll, and is more like Hogfather and Going Postal than the shite one with Sean Austin in.
 
The whole point is moot considering Gaiman has said there will be no second season. He has no interest in writing a sequel without Pratchett.
 
I had focused so much on them targeting the wrong network it didn't even occur to me that it's already "canceled" which makes it even funnier. I suppose they want it pulled even though they haven't seen it apparently.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
The whole point is moot considering Gaiman has said there will be no second season. He has no interest in writing a sequel without Pratchett.
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He said no at the same time as hinting there was some material that had already worked it’s way in.
I hope there isn’t.
Pterry handled things like this with more sensitivity and humanity than Gaiman alone, and Gaiman then is better than Gaiman now (I went off him after Ocean at the End of the Lane.) and I don’t think he would do as good a job. Same reason I basically prefer TV Neverwhere over its later odd iterations, and I got bored with American Gods the TV series in a way I didn’t with the book.
It’s actually astonishing how few actual books Gaiman has done....and how since becoming a bit of a celebrity in the mainstream he’s done even less. (Put It this way, I may have missed some, but I think he’s actually only written what...four honest to goodness original novels for adults? Be generous and throw in Stardust as a novella, though it sort of was something else. And technically Neverwhere was an adaptation of his own work. Mostly.)
He’s just not as...witty or clever as his own younger self. If he was punk when he started, now he’s more establishment. Like the fantasy author version of Ben Elton.
His short stories are good in their various collections, but to sometimes see him touted as an SF writer is a stretch...aside from his fairly recent Who work, he’d done one sort of vaguely SF short story.
He’s an interesting mix of genuine talent being unwittingly worn down by inadvertent marketing including by his own fans and groups. (Though I did love the Tori Amos line sneaking into Good Omens TV before getting her to do the end song.)

Then there’s PTerry’s work sitting there, hopefully still populating train station WH Smith’s and little bookshops in villages everywhere, quietly doing its thing. There’s something more magical about it in bookshops. It has power of its own. I wouldn’t want to see it handled wrong on screen....it’s why Colour of Magic doesn’t work as well as the first two adaptations, too much was given to stunt casting, making rincewind older than he should be (and Albert to boot) and Twoflower suddenly becoming American totally confusing the joke.

CSI Ankhmorpork will work and could spin out beyond adapting the books, but it’s got to be carefully done if it’s to keep its power. And sadly...I can honestly see all the satire going right out the window. No one is going to do the Islam/Dwarves jokes/allegory, no one will touch the trans stuff with Cheery, and the Trolls get really really complicated next to that...even before we get to Goblins.

They probably stay fairly safe on radio, but the early ones of those were best, and Carrot should always be welsh as a result.

Edit: and before I forget it, of course there was a very successful adaptation of Sam Vimes already. It just had the serial numbers filed off, called him Gene Hunt and was in Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes. Don’t believe me? Check out Night Watch....
 
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nightwind1 said:
Or Lucifer?
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I think, even assuming they had, neither of those are big audience draws enough to make a protest worthwhile.
Neither of them pull from the bible in the way Good Omens does either.

One is tangential Gaiman I suppose (Lucifer was a sandman spin off wasn’t it?) and all owe a debt to Paradise Lost. I suspect some branches of the faith definitely confuse Middle Ages religious fiction with biblical truth though (probably including the much later Paradise Lost) and it would not surprise me if in some distant future, Good Omens itself is mistaken in a much similar fashion...not least as, like Harry Potter before and after it, it’s actually a pretty Christian work in its ending. (Surprisingly, unlike BSG, no one minds the god did it ending this time...)
There’s a nice dash of C S Lewis in there too.
 
I finished the mini series. I read the book, but it was so many years ago that I was basically going into this blind. It was ok. Whenever Crowley and Aziraphale were on screen it was great, but unfortunately the show had more then just them. Whenever the kid was onscreen by himself or with his friends I was bored to tears, I wish he had just been a plot device that wasn't really seen. The witch and the nerdy guy were pretty decent, they were the only other characters I cared about outside of the main two. The old Witchfinder and the psychic lady were horrible, I absolutely loathed them. Jon Hamm annoyed me to the point that I never bothered to remember his name, but he wasn't around enough to piss me off like the Witchfinder/psychic duo.

The story was ok, but some of the weaker characters dragged it down. The narration was probably used a bit too much, but it didn't really bother me. Overall this was an ok mini series with some great elements.
 
kirk55555 said:
I finished the mini series. I read the book, but it was so many years ago that I was basically going into this blind. It was ok. Whenever Crowley and Aziraphale were on screen it was great, but unfortunately the show had more then just them. Whenever the kid was onscreen by himself or with his friends I was bored to tears, I wish he had just been a plot device that wasn't really seen. The witch and the nerdy guy were pretty decent, they were the only other characters I cared about outside of the main two. The old Witchfinder and the psychic lady were horrible, I absolutely loathed them. Jon Hamm annoyed me to the point that I never bothered to remember his name, but he wasn't around enough to piss me off like the Witchfinder/psychic duo.

The story was ok, but some of the weaker characters dragged it down. The narration was probably used a bit too much, but it didn't really bother me. Overall this was an ok mini series with some great elements.
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Hamm was Gabriel. As in the Angel Gabriel.
 
jaime said:
I mean...Agnes knew they would burn the prophecies, so maybe she sent another,
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Oh, I've never thought that the box of papers Agnes Nutter had delivered to Newt and Anathema was anything more than blank paper and the letters to various people along the way to make sure it gets delivered. I mean, if Agnes knew about everything else, she'd know that Newt and Anathema were going to put the papers to the torch, so she could have a little private joke with them... and, in a way, send a message to Anathema that everything turned out okay, since one of Anathema's issues was that she knew she was at the end of time. For the first time in her life, Anathema could live a life that wasn't predestined, and I never saw Agnes, nutter that she was, doing something to actively take that away from her, even if Agnes herself knew what that future was..
 
Allyn Gibson said:
Oh, I've never thought that the box of papers Agnes Nutter had delivered to Newt and Anathema was anything more than blank paper and the letters to various people along the way to make sure it gets delivered. I mean, if Agnes knew about everything else, she'd know that Newt and Anathema were going to put the papers to the torch, so she could have a little private joke with them... and, in a way, send a message to Anathema that everything turned out okay, since one of Anathema's issues was that she knew she was at the end of time. For the first time in her life, Anathema could live a life that wasn't predestined, and I never saw Agnes, nutter that she was, doing something to actively take that away from her, even if Agnes herself knew what that future was..
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Yup. Its just the tiniest hook
 
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