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The box office dominance of Avatar

There was a very clean pirate copy of Endgame available a few days after it started screening. That can't have helped takings.
 
But wasn't Avatar in the cinnema for almost a year? So Endgame still has time or is it to much to bridge the different?
 
But wasn't Avatar in the cinnema for almost a year? So Endgame still has time or is it to much to bridge the different?

It's been slowing down for a bit now. It's unlikely that it can make up the extra 50 odd million before it winds up gone from theaters altogether.

However, if, some months down the road, Marvel rereleases it in theaters for a special occassion (which was also done with Avatar), then that very well could do it after all. No idea whether they would be at all interested in doing that, though.
 
It would be interesting to add in a comparison of the home video revenue? Endgame might have an advantage there

It's going to be real hard to compare those things.

In Avatar's time, the studios made a lot by selling physical media. Now, the next stop after the cinema is cable, streaming, etc, and fairly quickly - that both diminishes the attractiveness of a theatrical re-release to the exhibitors, who will always prefer whatever is exclusive to them and being heavily promoted by the studios right now, first-run stuff, and exacerbates the revenue-sapping piracy issues which Reyman mentioned.
 
Anyway, Avatar got a bit of box office boost with the re-release with added scenes in the summer of 2010. Disney can choose to re-release Endgame in about half a year, and it'll overtake Avatar most likely. Then they can re-release Avatar to promote the sequels. The two movies being so close box office-wise actually really is in Disney's favor, as they can promote it as a kind of competition for the top spot playing the Marvel fans/Avatar haters and the Avatar fans/Marvel haters who are dumb enough to care which one's on top up against each other.

Or, next week, apparently.

Avengers: Endgame Officially Getting Re-Released With New Footage

Comic Book said:
Be on the lookout for a new version of Avengers: Endgame next week!

Is it a re-release, if it never went out of theaters in the first place?!
 
The bigger question is, does it count as the same movie if it has new or alternate scenes?
Or do we have to start the box office counter at 0 now?
How much of a movie can you change before it‘s not Avengers: Endgame anymore but Avengers: Endgame 2.0?

What if the ending is different this time and the re-release is part of the multiverse plot?
Maybe this will be the movie from Mysterio‘s Earth instead where his account of things is true.
 
The bigger question is, does it count as the same movie if it has new or alternate scenes?
Or do we have to start the box office counter at 0 now?
How much of a movie can you change before it‘s not Avengers: Endgame anymore but Avengers: Endgame 2.0?

What if the ending is different this time and the re-release is part of the multiverse plot?
Maybe this will be the movie from Mysterio‘s Earth instead where his account of things is true.
As I understand it from what I've read. The ONLY thing added was an actual post credits scene with some sort of tribute (I assume to Stan Lee, or the 10+ years of the MCU or both.)
 
The bigger question is, does it count as the same movie if it has new or alternate scenes?
Or do we have to start the box office counter at 0 now?
How much of a movie can you change before it‘s not Avengers: Endgame anymore but Avengers: Endgame 2.0?

What if the ending is different this time and the re-release is part of the multiverse plot?
Maybe this will be the movie from Mysterio‘s Earth instead where his account of things is true.
There's precedent (Star Wars, Avatar, etc.). It's all the same box office.
 
Avatar was a one-of-a-kind spectacle, unlike anything audiences had seen before. No one wanted to miss it.

Endgame is a lot of things, but it certainly isn't one of a kind.

Avatar also used groundbreaking technical innovation to tell a story that has been popular with Western audiences for hundreds of years. On top of that, it was the first release in a decade from a storyteller whose previous film was a cultural moment for a significant portion of the population.

It's inevitable that some film will eventually knock Avatar down to second place- it may yet be Endgame. But Avatar certainly earned its decade in the top spot.

Avatar was Dances with Wolves meets The Last Samurai in Space,

If your familiarity with Western storytelling begins around 1990, sure.
 
Don't forget that people became obsessed with Avatar and by extension Pandora. I remember articles being written at the time about how Pandora not being a real place was inducing a type of depression in people.
 
Avatar was a one-of-a-kind spectacle, unlike anything audiences had seen before. No one wanted to miss it.
I didn't see it until it hit HBO. I had zero interest in "Pocahontas...IN SPACE!" <--- Because in the end, flashy (and honestly still somewhat cartoony with the 'Blue Cats') CGI didn't do it for me. YMMV.
 
Does anybody have any idea how succesful the Pandora area at Disney California Adventure, and the Avatar comics are doing? I think the popularity of those would be a good way to judge how people currently feel about Avatar.
 
Does anybody have any idea how succesful the Pandora area at Disney California Adventure, and the Avatar comics are doing? I think the popularity of those would be a good way to judge how people currently feel about Avatar.
Pandora is in Disney's Animal Kingdom in Orlando. From what I hear it's no more or less busy than the rest of the park, with most people asking "why did they make this?" when they see it.

That leads me to believe that all the stories of people who wished Pandora was real was fake news created by the Fox marketing department.

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The real "floating" rock...
 
It sounds like there's not the kind of interest there you'd expect for something based off of the #1 movie of all time. I have to admit, my first thought when they announced it was, why would they do it now, so long after the movie?
 
I have to admit, my first thought when they announced it was, why would they do it now, so long after the movie?
It was a knee jerk response to Harry Potter opening in Universal Studios. The head of the parks division felt that they needed a killer attraction to match Harry Potter or risk giving up the "best theme park" crown to Universal.
 
It sounds like there's not the kind of interest there you'd expect for something based off of the #1 movie of all time.

That's the only thing people ever talk about when it comes to Avatar. "Shouldn't it be more popular?"

Well, it's obviously popular enough for everyone to be asking this question, so I guess that's something?
 
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