Pretty much this. If it has action then it is for the ignorant masses, while less action means more upper crust. Or something...Blockbuster seems to have come to mean "successful big-budget movie that I don't like because I'm smarter."


Pretty much this. If it has action then it is for the ignorant masses, while less action means more upper crust. Or something...Blockbuster seems to have come to mean "successful big-budget movie that I don't like because I'm smarter."
Pretty much this. If it has action then it is for the ignorant masses, while less action means more upper crust. Or something...I'm probably not smart enough
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That's pretty much it.It's that's same logic used to criticize the Kelvinverse films vs. "REAL STAR TREK."
"Star Trek (read: TNG) was always so thoughtful and intelligent."
"Slow" doesn't always equate to "smart."
Unpopular opinion: Sybok is one of the more complex, well-developed, well-acted "guest antagonists" in the entire movie franchise.
I could see this. He has a lot of interesting motivations and he isn't only evil. I think his ending as a villain is one of the better-told endings for a villain.Unpopular opinion: Sybok is one of the more complex, well-developed, well-acted "guest antagonists" in the entire movie franchise.
Unpopular opinion: Sybok is one of the more complex, well-developed, well-acted "guest antagonists" in the entire movie franchise.
Agree.
If he could just not have been Spock’s brother, I think he’d be higher up my list.
What if he was the guy who oversaw Spock at the Science Academy when Spock chooses Starfleet?Right.... Any old friend, mentor or associate would have worked.
Agree.
If he could just not have been Spock’s brother, I think he’d be higher up my list.
It's that's same logic used to criticize the Kelvinverse films vs. "REAL STAR TREK."
"Star Trek (read: TNG) was always so thoughtful and intelligent."
"Slow" doesn't always equate to "smart."
Actually he's adopted.Technically, he's Spock's half-brother.
Actually he's adopted.
Sarek and Amanda have been known to do that.
Not according to the movie. Sybok was a child from a previous marriage, a Vulcan princess. So unlike Spock and/or Burham, he's a "purebreed" Vulcan.
His father never had to twist arms to get him to Vulcan academies or whatever.
it would have made it interesting dynamic to watch unfold on the show if they had used all three characters for flashbacks.
Yes, it would have. Sybok was probably already an adult when they adopted Michael. But he had feelings and wasn't afraid to show them. Sybok could even have made an appearance in the present of the show and his existence would still have been unknown by Kirk and McCoy.
They could have had him.intrigued by the red Angel, disappointed that it was just a tech suit and stumble into the idea of Sha Ka Ree, and go on a tangent quest right in front of our eyes
They could have had him.intrigued by the red Angel, disappointed that it was just a tech suit and stumble into the idea of Sha Ka Ree, and go on a tangent quest right in front of our eyes
The sad thing is that, because fans are generally negative on Star Trek V (not me, but certainly in general), the powers that be tend avoid that storyline like the plague. I think it's a completely lost opportunity, as the Sybok character and backstory has a ton of potential.That's interesting and it would definitely be a worthy effort for continuity.
I think canon is as important with star trek as it is with any tv show. you can take it too far, but some basic things have to be adhered to. Take Cheers for example, if suddenly in the 6th season you had sam playing for the yankes in his past in one episode, then back to the red sox in the next, you have sloppy writing, no matter how good the story is.One hundred percent agreed. Continuity is important, but the fannish obsession with "canon," bordering on religious fundamentalism has become a pox on the franchise.
My hot take: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country suffered because they didn't have Saavik as Spock's protege who gets involved in the conspiracy. It would have added tons of depth to the already good story. Even if Kirstie wasn't willing for whatever reason, and Meyer didn't like Robin Curtis, then they simply should have recast again, or Meyer should have gotten over his attitude about Curtis.
(Sub-Hot Take: Curtis was the better Saavik)
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