Maybe, but no "The Toad Awakens" can compete with "The Public Shower Strikes Back", IMO.
News FOX selling out to Disney?
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Oh yeah, I'm aware of that, that's why I was wondering. I just wasn't sure if they would want or be able to use the Fox name since there will still be a now much smaller independent Fox company.
^ The 20th Century Fox film studio remains in business as a Walt Disney Company subsidiary:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Century_Fox
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Century_Fox
Well, not too loosely given that the main character is Wolverine and Professor X plays a major role as well. And they're played by the same actors who played them in the X-MEN movies.
While ignoring the previous films and storylines. They make vague references to the Statue of Liberty, but the very idea of X-Men is treated more as a joke that Logan is ashamed of.
To be fair,
everybody he loved died. And then he helped save them by changing the future while being the only person to retain the traumatic memories of the original timeline. ...And then everyone he loved died again. I'd be a little bitter if someone threw an X-Men comic in my face too.
Even though it isn't his fault, he's Logan. He always feels as though he's failing the people around him (while also feeling as though he's not worthy of their company and love) even when he isn't failing them. He's the hero who feels he's a fraud. And that's when things are going well!
Laura: You had a nightmare.
Logan: Do you have nightmares?
Laura: Si. People hurt me.
Logan: Mine are different.
Laura: Por que?
Logan: I hurt people.
Logan: Hey, I never asked for this! Alright? Charles never asked for this. Caliban never asked for this. And they are six feet under the ground! Now, I don't know what Charles put in your head, but I am *not* whatever it is you think I am, okay?
[Laura coldly looks at Logan]
Logan: I only met you, like, a *week* ago. You got your Rebecca, your Delilah, your blah, blah, blah, whatever. Everything you asked for, you've got it!
[Logan's voice begins to break and starts to tear up slightly]
Logan: And it is *better* this way. Because I *suck* at this. Bad shit happens to people I care about. You understand me?
Even though it isn't his fault, he's Logan. He always feels as though he's failing the people around him (while also feeling as though he's not worthy of their company and love) even when he isn't failing them. He's the hero who feels he's a fraud. And that's when things are going well!
Laura: You had a nightmare.
Logan: Do you have nightmares?
Laura: Si. People hurt me.
Logan: Mine are different.
Laura: Por que?
Logan: I hurt people.
Logan: Hey, I never asked for this! Alright? Charles never asked for this. Caliban never asked for this. And they are six feet under the ground! Now, I don't know what Charles put in your head, but I am *not* whatever it is you think I am, okay?
[Laura coldly looks at Logan]
Logan: I only met you, like, a *week* ago. You got your Rebecca, your Delilah, your blah, blah, blah, whatever. Everything you asked for, you've got it!
[Logan's voice begins to break and starts to tear up slightly]
Logan: And it is *better* this way. Because I *suck* at this. Bad shit happens to people I care about. You understand me?
That's who he was before meeting the X-Men too. Death is all he knew. The movie works with or without any other film.
You are not correct in this assessment.
Logan doesn't "ignore" anything.
It's the chronological "endpoint" for the entire 20-year XMCU and directly establishes that, despite the shift in the timeline, certain things still repeated themselves.
Logan is set in the altered timeline created by Wolverine's actions in 1973 in Days of Future Past, 6 years after he returns to the "present" of 2023 at the conclusion of that film.
I don't disagree, but as loose and all over the place as XMCU continuity is, I think there's something to be said for the previous stories (the relevant parts of them anyway) directly informing Logan's portrayal here.
As you say, you don't *need* the other movies for this one to work, but for long term fans it does potentially enhance the characters' depth by knowing what led them where they are and how much they lost along the way.
Having said all that, there's equally something to be said for the details of Logan's trauma being left obscure, especially given the mysterious, broken old warrior motif the movie went for with the Shane references.
All of which really is a testament for the precarious balancing act this movie pulls of flawlessly. For that alone it's easily head and shoulders the BEST X-Men movie, period.
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Is he still in charge of that part of Marvel? I know that Disney kicked him out of Marvel Studios which is how we got Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
How do the film's events have any weight or gravitas at all without there being some kind of foundation from the other movies?
The world weary performance of Jackman? An elderly Stewart trying to hold on to hope in a hopeless world? The direction and cinematography?
Sadly still got authority over the TV side.
Which makes the cinema people starting to produce stuff for TV even more joyous...
