So that they can launch at a moment's notice - as they do in at least a couple of episodes - and to preserve ship's security, which IIRC is the reason why skeleton crews are a thing for docked naval vessel in the RW?
Did Worf live on the Defiant?
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So that they can launch at a moment's notice - as they do in at least a couple of episodes - and to preserve ship's security, which IIRC is the reason why skeleton crews are a thing for docked naval vessel in the RW?
But there is only one way in and out of the Defiant, with no evidence of a skeleton crew (especially since Worf could play opera on the bridge and Thomas Riker’s group could commandeer it with only Kira aboard). The fifty-person ship could just be that secure post-Riker and automated.
Yup - that's the Starfleet way, as we so readily witness. It may be different from how we'd do it today, but why should we know better then Starfleet? They are the professionals, the ones who'd be screwed if there really were some drawback to keeping the ship empty.
Fancy stuff happens. The Soviet high speed interceptor subs NATO called "Alpha", one of which menaced Alec Baldwin and Sean Connery in Red October, had to run their engines nonstop for ten years, even at the pier, or their power plants would have frozen solid - a weird arrangement that actually offered increased reactor lifespan and reduced fuel consumption. Old polar explorers in turn hoped to get frozen solid whole at anchor, the tighter, the better, as this best protected them from the elements. There's no real telling what pierside treatment is best for these cool starships whose "power regenerates" but whose fuel may blow up planets if accidentally released and whose waste products are handy for blowing up stars...
Timo Saloniemi
Fancy stuff happens. The Soviet high speed interceptor subs NATO called "Alpha", one of which menaced Alec Baldwin and Sean Connery in Red October, had to run their engines nonstop for ten years, even at the pier, or their power plants would have frozen solid - a weird arrangement that actually offered increased reactor lifespan and reduced fuel consumption. Old polar explorers in turn hoped to get frozen solid whole at anchor, the tighter, the better, as this best protected them from the elements. There's no real telling what pierside treatment is best for these cool starships whose "power regenerates" but whose fuel may blow up planets if accidentally released and whose waste products are handy for blowing up stars...
Timo Saloniemi
Worf lived on the defiant, not because he like having small quarters, but because he didn't like DS9. He felt the station was not very secure, and crawling with non-starfleet personnel and civilians. He didn't trust them.
I believe this is all stated in the episode where Worf tries to do Odo's job for him. And yes, it is later stated that he also likes living on the ship for his music.
I believe this is all stated in the episode where Worf tries to do Odo's job for him. And yes, it is later stated that he also likes living on the ship for his music.
It was right after that episode. He caught someone after they broke into his quarters and stole his stuff, including the tooth sharpener he had bought off Nog. (Gross, btw.) That was the last straw.
When Sisko needs to leave the station in a hurry, and he gets to Docking Tube 47; oh the Defiant is powered down and internal temp is freezing, we gotta start up the standby reactors and turn on life support, we"ll be out of here in 12 hours Captain, don't worry...
Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I imagine that Defiant must have a more sophisticated Warp Core; one that can go from a cold start to warp power in under an hour, than larger Starships that aren't meant to be permanently docked.
Perhaps the Defiants umbilical connection to DS9 provides standby power so the ships internal reactors can be kept at a lower readiness and still be ready for a full start on command.
Either way, DS9's detached officer complement for the Defiant is generally only about half a dozen people. There should be around 30-40 people permanently assigned, and when the ship is docked around half that just to keep the lights on.
Of course, in the interests of making a dramatic TV show al that falls by the wayside.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I imagine that Defiant must have a more sophisticated Warp Core; one that can go from a cold start to warp power in under an hour, than larger Starships that aren't meant to be permanently docked.
Perhaps the Defiants umbilical connection to DS9 provides standby power so the ships internal reactors can be kept at a lower readiness and still be ready for a full start on command.
Either way, DS9's detached officer complement for the Defiant is generally only about half a dozen people. There should be around 30-40 people permanently assigned, and when the ship is docked around half that just to keep the lights on.
Of course, in the interests of making a dramatic TV show al that falls by the wayside.
You would think Defiant would be manned day and night simply because you would need a crew to maintain the systems and fix things that break. .Or a security detachment to stop certain Ferengi's sneaking aboard and program the replicators to make "Come to Quark"s" add cups for their bar.
Jason
Jason
Just how I like my chairs. Hard on the back,leaves your feet dangling and you have to jump down from it anytime you want to get up. I guess you got to do a back ass jump upward to even get back up on it hoping your but lands in the right place.
Jason
In an episode I just caught on repeat Odo has his quarters soundproofed after Quark complains about the noise.
In Way of the Warrior, when DS9 gets the distress call from Kasidy, Sisko orders Dax to have the crew on the Defiant to man their stations. The Defiant would have a Skeleton crew to get the ship ready for instances exactly like this.
They seem to have done away with that though once Worf moved in. Most likely he scared the skeleton crew away or maybe it became a shitty housemate situation, with Worf hogging the living room (the bridge) to play his shitty operas, while everyone else was forced to watch 24th century netflix in their cabins.
Except that nobody says why the crew was on the Defiant; perhaps they happened to be doing maintenance or running their own changeling-infiltration drill. The evidence from other episodes makes that more likely than the presence of a standing crew.
Really i think it just depends on the needs of the plot. If the defiant requires having a standing crew it will have one, if the plot requires worf to be living there by himself then it wont.
Yes, and the question here is what the overwhelming story need was back then — apparently, to keep the Defiant mostly empty, meaning a skeleton crew wasn’t needed.
If I am not mistaken, the duty section (what we seem to be referring to as the "skeleton crew") in a real navy would not be permanent residents by assignment. They serve in shifts, and when a liberty, can live off ship (assuming they have the resources to do so).
It's possible the skelton crew consists most of engineers operating out of main engineering. Maybe they go around the ship fixing things that break down or go stop by the mess for a coffee break but even then I would think do to the ship being docked and the ship not being that big your talking about a small group of people.
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