Unpopular Trek opinions game

[Lord Garth]

Unpopular Opinion: Kruge was a far better villain than Chang.

Agree. Kruge is everything an Evil Klingon should be. Merciless, even to his lover. Wants to conquer. Kills his subordinates for insubordination. Wrestles with a slug just to prove how strong he is. Kills a prisoner just because he can so he can prove a point. Denies Kirk anything he wants solely on the basis of it's what he wants. And goes down rather than wanting to be saved by Kirk, hoping to drag him down to Hell with him. Great villain. Chang just quotes Shakespeare really well and puts on a good show. But Kruge's no show. He's the real deal. He's what Chang wishes he was.

Unpopular Opinion...

Don't know. This is getting harder... I have it... No I don't... No. Wait, wait... Got it.

In "Lower Decks", Picard shouldn't have sent Sito Jaxa out on a mission where he knew she was probably going to die. If he wanted to make sure she had a chance to redeem herself, fine. But she would've done anything to redeem herself, she wanted it that badly, so she volunteered to sacrifice herself. If there was no alternative, that would be one thing. But I'd think an undercover intelligence operative would've made more sense than an Ensign just out of the Academy. It feels more like a mission for someone in Starfleet Intelligence than for someone assigned to the Enterprise-D, which is supposed to be one of the cushiest posts you can have. Not that it takes away from the dramatic ending. It's powerful enough to overcome the setup. I just disagree with how it got there. Still a great episode.

I'll have to bow out now. I had to dig really deep for that one.

EDIT: No, wait. I've got one more. It's so obvious, I can't believe I didn't think of it until just now. This one isn't such a deep cut as the one I posted just above, but I'll save what I came up with for the next go around.

 

[Phoenix219]

Locutus forever. Riker/Shelby/Data as the stars. Pulaski was the better doctor. BOOM.

 

[Lord Garth]

Pulaski was the better doctor. BOOM.

Damnit. That's not exactly what I was going to go with but it's close enough: I like Pulaski. So, in the spirit of the above, I agree. How it took until this page for Pulaski to be mentioned, I don't know.

So I'll have to come up with some wacky, unconventional thing now. O'Brien and Bashir should've had an affair. Okay, I don't really think that. But I had to come up with something. Bowing out.

 

[Phoenix219]

Locutus forever. Riker/Shelby/Data as the stars. Pulaski was the better doctor. BOOM.

totally off topic joke to myself, really. I was just going through what the core of the show would have been in my other world......and well....

Riker/Shelby/Data/Worf/Geordi/Pulaski as the core...... oh man, by total accident I think I just picked the Orville. Ed/Kelly/Isaac/Bortus/John/Claire... does that make Gordon the Wesley?

 

[Mojochi]

Pulaski was the better doctor. BOOM.

It's pretty well written that way. Pulaski was heralded for her expertise more in one season than Crusher was in 6

 

[Phoenix219]

It's pretty well written that way. Pulaski was heralded for her expertise more in one season than Crusher was in 6

Better doctor, character, actress.....

 

[Delta Vega]

Unpopular opinion, maybe
After TOS, Klingons and their stupid skull plates became plain daft, boring in the extreme with all their "honour" code
Worf was a complete and utter tosser
Although on Discovery, I thought Klingons were different enough to be interesting again.

 

[HugeLobes]

My honest unpopular opinion?

I think Trek is pretty dated and find it increasingly hard to enjoy as much as I used to. Certainly the days when I'll happily watch through a season without skipping subpar episodes are well in the past.

 

[Damian]

Kruge was a far better villain than Chang.

Agree. Kruge is everything an Evil Klingon should be. Merciless, even to his lover.

I agree Kruge was a great villain. I remember reading somewhere, maybe it was the novelization (it's been years since I read it) that Kruge was cruel even by Klingon standards. It helps Christopher Lloyd is a great actor (it's hard to believe it's the same guy that played Doc Brown in Back to the Future, but that's the kind of actor he is).

But I liked Chang too. Honestly I never compared the two because they're two very different types of villains with very different motivations. I almost find it comparing apples to oranges. And I loved whoever's idea it was to feature a patch, nailed to his head---Klingons

I'm trying to think of an unpopular Star Trek opinions I have. I already mentioned one (liking Nemesis, and Insurrection for one), and some of the questionable episodes I liked. The Motion Picture is my favorite Star Trek film, not sure how unpopular that opinion is. I mean, there's plenty of Trekkies that 'liked' TMP, but I don't know many who list it as their number 1 Star Trek film (usually I find that ends up being TWOK, TUC, Star Trek (2009) and occasionally First Contact).

 

[1001001]

Better doctor, character, actress.....

Disagree. Her deliberate disrespect toward a fellow officer (Data) was unacceptable.

IThe Motion Picture is my favorite Star Trek film, not sure how unpopular that opinion is. I mean, there's plenty of Trekkies that 'liked' TMP, but I don't know many who list it as their number 1 Star Trek film (usually I find that ends up being TWOK, TUC, Star Trek (2009) and occasionally First Contact).

Disagree. I would rather scrape my face along the pavement than sit through that monstrosity ever again.

Unpopular Opinion: I think Kirk's death was just fine. Heroic to the end.

 

[Damian]

Disagree. Her deliberate disrespect toward a fellow officer (Data) was unacceptable.

Yeah, agree there. As the season went on she started to come around though. I remember her being an advocate for Data's friend in "Pen Pals". Some of the recent novels she was in also address her 'bigotry' towards Data at the start and worked toward rehabilitating her character as well.

Unpopular Opinion: I think Kirk's death was just fine. Heroic to the end.

Agree and disagree. I never had a problem with Kirk's willingness to sacrifice himself for a race of people he never knew (I sort of wish they stressed that a bit more in the film--you almost forget he didn't just save the Enterprise crew, but all the people on Veridian IV as well). My problem was his manner of death could have been a bit better. I'm not even talking about some cliché heroes death necessarily. But really, death by bridge was the best they could come up with?

I'm running out of ideas but how bout this--I mentioned before that I always thought "The Trouble with Tribbles" was a bit overrated. I don't hate it, but I don't get why it seems so popular. It's ok but I usually only watch it when I'm doing a series watch. When I'm just in the mood for a random original series episode it's not an episode I'd ever turn to watch on the fly.

 

[Armus]

Unpopular Opinion: Star Trek episodes should always focus more on the main cast than the guest star. This was more of an element of the Rick Berman/Michael Piller era of Star Trek, after the first season of TNG, when TNG became just as much about the characters as it was about the alien-of-the-week or the adventure-of-the-week. I think there is room for both. An anthological series needs stories that focus on the guest star of the week. There's more leeway to tell unique and ambitious stories that way. One of my favorite episodes of TNG is Too Short A Season which was a very unusual episode in that it was really about the death and redemption of Admiral Mark Jameson. Picard is involved in a heroic way but the episode isn't really about anyone from the main cast.

 

[Vger23]

Unpopular Opinion: I think Kirk's death was just fine. Heroic to the end.

Agree...and Kirk is my all-time favorite Star Trek character. I thought it was a very good end...and Kirk's last lines were perfectly written and executed.

Unpopular Opinion: 7 of 9 was a bland, stock character that took on way too much focus after her arrival.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm trying to think of an unpopular Star Trek opinions I have. I already mentioned one (liking Nemesis, and Insurrection for one), and some of the questionable episodes I liked. The Motion Picture is my favorite Star Trek film, not sure how unpopular that opinion is. I mean, there's plenty of Trekkies that 'liked' TMP, but I don't know many who list it as their number 1 Star Trek film (usually I find that ends up being TWOK, TUC, Star Trek (2009) and occasionally First Contact).

I'd love to put TMP as my #1 but I can't get there. A few years ago was the first time I was ever able to watch it in one sitting. If we're talking about as a visual piece and musically, then yes. It's #1 for sure. But I look at more than just that for an overall impression. My biggest question is always: "Was I entertained?" I'm more impressed by TMP than I was entertained by it, if that makes sense.

 

[Vger23]

Agree. Kruge is everything an Evil Klingon should be. Merciless, even to his lover. Wants to conquer. Kills his subordinates for insubordination. Wrestles with a slug just to prove how strong he is. Kills a prisoner just because he can so he can prove a point. Denies Kirk anything he wants solely on the basis of it's what he wants. And goes down rather than wanting to be saved by Kirk, hoping to drag him down to Hell with him. Great villain. Chang just quotes Shakespeare really well and puts on a good show. But Kruge's no show. He's the real deal. He's what Chang wishes he was.

Agree entirely. Chang was basically just a bald British guy who hates peace as much as he loves quoting Shakespeare. I always get annoyed at how self-indulgent the writing was in that regard. I felt no sense of menace from him at all. He was just a slimy, sniveling weasel that Chekov probably could have beaten up.

 

[Armus]

Agree entirely. Chang was basically just a bald British guy who hates peace as much as he loves quoting Shakespeare. I always get annoyed at how self-indulgent the writing was in that regard. I felt no sense of menace from him at all. He was just a slimy, sniveling weasel that Chekov probably could have beaten up.

They wanted to give Kirk someone formidable, and they probably wanted them to share onscreen time together since Shatner and Montalban filmed all their scenes separately in TWOK. Chang seemed a little touched at times.

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[Vger23]

They wanted to give Kirk someone formidable, and they probably wanted them to share onscreen time together since Shatner and Montalban filmed all their scenes separately in TWOK. Chang seemed a little touched at times.

He was kind of the 23rd Century Klingon version of a "keyboard warrior," except instead of hiding behind his keyboard, he spent the movie hiding behind his cloaked bird-of-prey.

 

[Armus]

I'd love to put TMP as my #1 but I can't get there. A few years ago was the first time I was ever able to watch it in one sitting. If we're talking about as a visual piece and musically, then yes. It's #1 for sure. But I look at more than just that for an overall impression. My biggest question is always: "Was I entertained?" I'm more impressed by TMP than I was entertained by it, if that makes sense.

TMP is one of my favorites but there are moments when it is the most impressive lullaby that ever eased me into slumber. I mean that in a good way, there is something very comforting about that Enterprise and Goldsmith's score.

 

[Kor]

Chang was a bald "Mid-Atlantic" guy; he used that affected upper-crust stage accent that's somewhere between America and Britain.

Kor

 

[Armus]

Chang was a bald "Mid-Atlantic" guy; he used that affected upper-crust stage accent that's somewhere between America and Britain.

Kor

I think he and Shatner both hale from the same country.