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Apparently, the best hairdressers are the Bolians, which is weird considering that before their first contact they didn't even know that there were people with hair!!! Maybe we're good at something, but we don't know it because we haven't met aliens with that need yet...
Bolians actually regard hair as a type of vegetation and are very good at flower arranging too.
 
Apparently, the best hairdressers are the Bolians, which is weird considering that before their first contact they didn't even know that there were people with hair!!! Maybe we're good at something, but we don't know it because we haven't met aliens with that need yet...
We are natural leaders, its why we dominate the Federation, Starfleet and only a human is chosen to captain the Enterprise. Everyone body loves us! Right?
 
Unpopular Opinion: Prequels and alternate time lines are dumb ideas for new Star Trek movies and TV shows. If a new series or new movie was set in the 25th century it could honor Star Trek's history without being constricted by it. The future is the way to go. TNG became an icon because it was set 80 years past the days of Kirk. This must be an unpopular opinion because every major Star Trek release after 2002 has been a prequel. It's a pity we had to wait until Picard Stewart turned 80 for this to change.

Disagree. It shouldn't matter. It only matters if the writers and creators allow it to matter. There's plenty of material to mine in any era, if it's done well / properly.

TNG became an icon because it was a great show, not because of when it was set.

Unpopular Opinion: Kruge was a far better villain than Chang.
 
Unpopular Opinion: Kruge was a far better villain than Chang.

Disagree - Kruge was out and out ruthless, with Chang you never saw it coming, he was more subtle.
Unpopular Opinion: TNG Enterprise should never be the flagship of Starfleet, it had a crew that was 99% human. The flagship should represent the UFP.
It's like having a United Earth ship that represents Earth to the rest of the galaxy and filling it with mainly Germans who look like Boris Becker
 
Disagree - Kruge was out and out ruthless, with Chang you never saw it coming, he was more subtle.
Unpopular Opinion: TNG Enterprise should never be the flagship of Starfleet, it had a crew that was 99% human. The flagship should represent the UFP.
It's like having a United Earth ship that represents Earth to the rest of the galaxy and filling it with mainly Germans who look like Boris Becker

There are way more aliens on Discovery and Pike's Enterprise than on all of the ships in the other series combined (not counting DS9).
 
Both Kruge and Chang were 2 dimensional villains written to serve the plot. Both were well portrayed by charismatic actors. Kruge seemed more Klingon than Chang, who probably knew more Shakespeare than a Klingon should know.
 
Both Kruge and Chang were 2 dimensional villains written to serve the plot. Both were well portrayed by charismatic actors. Kruge seemed more Klingon than Chang, who probably knew more Shakespeare than a Klingon should know.

I like Chang better. As a villain he was way more chilling than Kruge who was more ridiculous than anything else, plus I kept seeing him as the spacey guy from Taxi...
 
I'm not a fan of Star Trek III: TSFS but I'd rank Kruge in my top 5 most memorable Star Trek Movie villains. I liked his scenes with his Klingon subordinates.
 
I'm not a fan of Star Trek III: TSFS but I'd rank Kruge in my top 5 most memorable Star Trek Movie villains. I liked his scenes with his Klingon subordinates.

As a point of comparison, I find the scenes with Chang much more effective, be it in the banquet or later when he's arguing with Azetbur.
 
New Hot Take: I think fans can be way too critical of Jake Sisko. As The Kid on the Ship, he was a much better portrayal of a kid and adolescent than poor Wesley was, and I loved that we finally had a human character whose goal in life was not to serve in Star Fleet.

I'm curious: Are fans critical of Jake? I always thought he was a vast improvement on Wesley when it came to depicting a teenage character--and proof that Trek can learn from its mistakes. Do people actually bash the character?

Meanwhile, I find Chang more compelling than Kruge.
 
As a point of comparison, I find the scenes with Chang much more effective, be it in the banquet or later when he's arguing with Azetbur.

I'd rank Montalban's Khan first in my list of top Classic Trek Movie villains, followed by Chang and Kruge. Sybok wasn't really a villain, neither was V'ger. Star Trek IV didn't even have a villain.
 
I'm curious: Are fans critical of Jake? I always thought he was a vast improvement on Wesley when it came to depicting a teenage character--and proof that Trek can learn from its mistakes. Do people actually bash the character?

Meanwhile, I find Chang more compelling than Kruge.

I'm critical of the use of Jake in certain episodes. I liked him in very small doses, preferably limited to scenes with his father, which I've said is a great depiction of a father-son relationship.

Both Wesley and Jake added familial warmth to Star Trek in their roles within the ensemble.
 
Star Trek IV didn't even have a villain
The whale probe.
TNG Enterprise should never be the flagship of Starfleet, it had a crew that was 99% human. The flagship should represent the UFP.
it was the flagship of the federation, not starfleet.

many of the federation's member species might not join starfleet, and some would be incompatible with the atmosphere, temp and gravity that Humans need.

probably are starfleet vessels that Humans can't be assigned to.
 
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I'm curious: Are fans critical of Jake? I always thought he was a vast improvement on Wesley when it came to depicting a teenage character--and proof that Trek can learn from its mistakes. Do people actually bash the character?

Meanwhile, I find Chang more compelling than Kruge.


I liked Jake better than Wesley. He had some good episodes. "The Visitor" comes to mind. I'm not easily moved but the early scene in the episode where his father reappears in the infirmary and Bashir and the others are discussing what to do and sort of leave Jake and Benjamin alone for a moment and Benjamin asks Jake how things are going and Jake gets teary eyed nearly gets me every time. I always thought that was a powerful scene. And the end when old Jake tells is father how much the boy he was needed his father

I also liked the episode where he and Bashir help out a base that is under siege by Klingons (I forget the name offhand). Jake starts off a bit annoying in that episode but he grew up in a hard way during that episode.

But he had his eye rolling moments too.

But nothing like Wesley. I'll never forget someone on another trek website came up with an idea for a TNG movie. That Wesley dies a horrible death, then they get stuck in a time look so it happens over and over again. It sounds so cruel, yet it brings a smile to my face every time I think of it :rofl: I can't help it

As far as unpopular opinions---well an easy one is I liked Nemesis. I even liked Insurrection for that matter, as flawed as it might be.

And I liked episodes like "Spock's Brain" "Plato's Stepchildren" "The Way to Eden" and "Spectre of the Gun"

And because of "Spectre..." for years I thought the Earps were the bad guys :lol:
 
Disagree. Masks was one of the worst episodes of TNG.
Is that actually an unpopular opinion? because I can't possibly agree with it more lol
Unpopular Opinion: Prequels and alternate time lines are dumb ideas for new Star Trek movies and TV shows. If a new series or new movie was set in the 25th century it could honor Star Trek's history without being constricted by it. The future is the way to go. TNG became an icon because it was set 80 years past the days of Kirk. This must be an unpopular opinion because every major Star Trek release after 2002 has been a prequel. It's a pity we had to wait until Picard Stewart turned 80 for this to change.
Jesus. I've been saying that for 20 years. I wouldn't say it's the primary reason it became iconic, but it is why it worked better thematically imho

I honestly doubt it's an unpopular opinion though. It's just one that the IP owners don't care about, because frankly, it's a much better marketing model to stay within established product margins. Drift too far out, & you are running a risk. So keeping within the known storyline is a safe money grab. It also panders to nostalgia fandom

Plus, the people who share our opinion, are fans already, & given to likely pay to see anything with the brand on it anyhow, even if it's just some low risk pablum like Star Wars' Rogue One, or Solo, or whatever the hell else that poor franchise will be milked for. It's why I never warmed up to Enterprise, have no interest in Discovery, & only have a rather 'take it or leave it', blasé attitude about the Kelvin movies. Frankly, it's the paltriest of gambits for this specific franchise, imho, because the whole idea of Star Trek is to boldly go forward & seek out the new
 
Frankly, it's the paltriest of gambits for this specific franchise, imho, because the whole idea of Star Trek is to boldly go forward & seek out the new

Yeah, I tend to agree. I'd much prefer if Star Trek just kept moving forward into the future. I did end up liking Enterprise ultimately. I think it was far enough removed from the original series (100 years prior) for them to cover new ground, and Star Trek history, while not a blank slate, does have large gaps.

But I think you're right. It's less risky in some ways to do shows and movies that take place in and around the timeframe of the original series. And in some ways more risky because you risk ticking off fans that like more continuity when things are different, and constricting in other ways because they're so close to the original series that storywise you basically have to put a lot of pieces back by the end.

Spore drive (a pet peeve of mine) is a perfect example. It's an amazing technology in a lot of ways. But because it's 10 years before the original series and it will no longer exist by then they have to put a kill switch in for it to make it unusable in later shows. Whereas if Discovery were in the 25th century, while you can add some danger to it for suspense purposes and so forth, you could create stories to overcome it and make it a usable technology.
 
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