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Is it racist to say that Vulcans are different than humans, that they have general qualities as a species that can be appreciated?

Is it racist for a Captain to take advantage of Captain's prerogative and use his own judgement to select his top officers? Kirk wasn't looking to fill the position for the ship's dishwasher or linecook-he was looking for his science officer.

I am sorry but that's the kind of stuff that racist people say: "Is it racist to say that black people run faster or that Asians are better at maths?"

"Well, yeah!!!"
 
Back to the original topic...:mad:

"Masks" was awesome. Brent Spiner does a sci-fi version of Split while the Enterprise gradually transforms into a stone temple.

Disagree. Masks was one of the worst episodes of TNG. One I skipped when doing a rewatch with my son.

It committed the unforgivable TV sin: it was unintentionally funny. I don't know how Stewart and Spiner got through those scenes without laughing their asses off.

Unpopular Opinion: The Inner Light was okay, but not great. Carbon Creek was better.
 
I am sorry but that's the kind of stuff that racist people say: "Is it racist to say that black people run faster or that Asians are better at maths?"

"Well, yeah!!!"
You don't get the point. Vulcans are not the equivalent of a minority or majority human race. They actually do have a different anatomy and brain than humans do.
 
You don't get the point. Vulcans are not the equivalent of a minority or majority human race. They actually do have a different anatomy and brain than humans do.

No, you don't get my point. If Kirk had said, "I want the best person for that job" and if it so happened that that best person was a Vulcan then so be it. The problem is that he didn't say that. He said: "I want a Vulcan" and that's racist.
 
No, you don't get my point. If Kirk had said, "I want the best person for that job" and if it so happened that that best person was a Vulcan then so be it. The problem is that he didn't say that. He said: "I want a Vulcan" and that's racist.

I still think that in the context of the scene and in the context of the Star Trek world Kirk should have the leeway to talk like that without being crucified as a racist. Maybe in the 23rd century humans will never talk in a way that 21st century humans can interpret as racist. I do take some of your points and I think it's best not to make any generalizations about any group of people.
 
Unpopular opinion: DS9 was at its best during season 2 before The Dominion and The Defiant were even introduced. Season 2 featured a lot of diverse stories and situations, and I always liked the Dominion more as a tease than as the show's defining arc.
 
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No, you don't get my point. If Kirk had said, "I want the best person for that job" and if it so happened that that best person was a Vulcan then so be it. The problem is that he didn't say that. He said: "I want a Vulcan" and that's racist.
Racist - No.
Speciest- Maybe, since I doubt every single Vulcan is a science specialist, someone on Vulcan has to work in the kitchen.
 
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Disagree. Masks was one of the worst episodes of TNG. One I skipped when doing a rewatch with my son.

It committed the unforgivable TV sin: it was unintentionally funny. I don't know how Stewart and Spiner got through those scenes without laughing their asses off.

Unpopular Opinion: The Inner Light was okay, but not great. Carbon Creek was better.

I still haven't watched Masks all the way through. I have seen every episode of every season of TNG except season 7. Someday..
 
Racist - No.
Speciest- Maybe, since I doubt every single Vulcan is a science specialist, someone on Vulcan has to work in the kitchen.

Well, given the scenes with Spock as a child, some Vulcan kids are nastier than rabid dogs. I wouldn't put these in charge of anything on a ship.
 
Racist - No.
Speciest- Maybe, since I doubt every single Vulcan is a science specialist, someone on Vulcan has to work in the kitchen.
That's entirely possible. The context of the scene is that Kirk simply wants another Mr. Spock, for professional and probably sentimental reasons.
 
I'll join you. I think it is a great scene and an essential piece of Kirk's growth.

You guys are starting to convince me. The Khaaaaan scream was still idiotic, though.

Unpopular opinion: I do not care for the holodeck episodes, specifically on Voyager as they often don't make a lick of sense.

Surely this is not an unpopular opinion. But I agree.

Agree on Georgi

Unpopular opinion : City On The Edge Of Forever is a pile of shit

Maybe not shit, but I think it tends to get overrated. You could have easily adapted it into an episode of The Twilight Zone or Outer Limits. It's a great episode. But it's not really Trek at its best IMO

I really enjoy Spock's Brain. I find it to be a hilarious and enjoyably silly episode.

Same!

"Masks" was awesome. Brent Spiner does a sci-fi version of Split while the Enterprise gradually transforms into a stone temple.

Agreed. I've always like the "ancient evil awoken" trope, and they have a ball with it here.


New Hot Take: I think fans can be way too critical of Jake Sisko. As The Kid on the Ship, he was a much better portrayal of a kid and adolescent than poor Wesley was, and I loved that we finally had a human character whose goal in life was not to serve in Star Fleet.
 
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New Hot Take: I think fans can be way too critical of Jake Sisko. As The Kid on the Ship, he was a much better portrayal of a kid and adolescent than poor Wesley was, and I loved that we finally had a human character whose goal in life was not to serve in Star Fleet.

Neither was Wesley's whose goal was apparently to be the Mozart of planes of existence or some crap like that.:rommie:
 
Well, given the scenes with Spock as a child, some Vulcan kids are nastier than rabid dogs. I wouldn't put these in charge of anything on a ship.
I guess you never met any nasty humans
That's entirely possible. The context of the scene is that Kirk simply wants another Mr. Spock, for professional and probably sentimental reasons.
Which ruled out anyone else qualified for the role, regardless of their species. Well RHIP
Sonak was not going to be like Spock, and Kirk should not expect him to be. He might be better, he might be worse. The novelverse Traitor Winds gives some noncanon backstory why he was chosen.

New Hot Take: I think fans can be way too critical of Jake Sisko. As The Kid on the Ship, he was a much better portrayal of a kid and adolescent than poor Wesley was, and I loved that we finally had a human character whose goal in life was not to serve in Star Fleet.
Applause!
 
Unpopular Opinion: Prequels and alternate time lines are dumb ideas for new Star Trek movies and TV shows. If a new series or new movie was set in the 25th century it could honor Star Trek's history without being constricted by it. The future is the way to go. TNG became an icon because it was set 80 years past the days of Kirk. This must be an unpopular opinion because every major Star Trek release after 2002 has been a prequel. It's a pity we had to wait until Picard Stewart turned 80 for this to change.
 
I get ya! I read a fanfiction story that had the premise Vulcans with the lowest touch telepathy made the best masseuse, manicurists and hair dressers!lol

Apparently, the best hairdressers are the Bolians, which is weird considering that before their first contact they didn't even know that there were people with hair!!! Maybe we're good at something, but we don't know it because we haven't met aliens with that need yet...
 
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