Er, right. Brain fart there.
Still, why did they need to go to a high-end jewelry shop for basic crystals?
Agents of SHIELD: Season 6
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Still, why did they need to go to a high-end jewelry shop for basic crystals?
Enoch was talking about finding a way to get back into cryosleep so they could meet Jemma in the future. So maybe that's what happened in the original loop.
Several of the alternates of Harrison Wells in The Flash. Also the Earth-2 Barry Allen from same, and the Earth-X Leonard Snart. Mirror Universe Brunt from DS9 was a sweetheart. Surely quite a few of the lead characters' doppelgangers in Sliders would count.
Because piezoelectric gems are precious in the worlds they come from. They power that device Sarge was trying to get working, so they have a practical use that makes them valuable, rather than just being pretty. It's like how dilithium crystals were a precious commodity in 23rd-century Star Trek.
The very first episode, they explain that the Confederacy split his ship in half. That seemed to happen when they were driven off the Earth, which happened because the Earth wasn't cracked in two.
Good call on the CW shows (though of course one of those Wells alternates is pretty nasty). I typically like seeing the badass alternate take on the characters and I suspect they're generally fun for the audience and the actors which is why they so often go in that direction.
So we did more or less get confirmation that Sarge is an alternate universe version of Coulson, but some of the references to reincarnation and past lives makes me wonder if there's more to it than. They seemed like the kind of thing that seems unimportant, but ends up being a bigger deal later. They didn't seem to totally brush off Snowflake's comments, like when Pax told her they don't always come back as butterflies. I guess it could have just been him playing along for her sake, but it felt like more than that to me. We also got Sarge hesitating when he saw May last week, and now this week he admits he recognizes the word Coulson.
I knew once I saw Kevin Tancheroen that we were done some good fight scenes, and the one on the truck did not disappoint. The stuff with the portal on the metal slab was especially fun.
Fitz's story wasn't as good as the stuff we got on Earth, but I still enjoyed it. I'm glad to see Enoch is still around, I like him.
I knew once I saw Kevin Tancheroen that we were done some good fight scenes, and the one on the truck did not disappoint. The stuff with the portal on the metal slab was especially fun.
Fitz's story wasn't as good as the stuff we got on Earth, but I still enjoyed it. I'm glad to see Enoch is still around, I like him.
That just sounded to me like they were used to humoring her eccentricity/madness. The problem with the idea of Sarge being Coulson reincarnated is that he's more than a year old. Also that reincarnation is of the soul, not the body.
I don't recall him hesitating, or for that matter, even seeing May last week. She saw him, but he was just looking around without spotting her, as far as I recall. He hesitated here when she said "Coulson."
Wonder if Coulson travelling through that alien transporter Hydra had could have had his "transporter image" flagged because of traces of Kree Blood still somewhere in his system that they could detect and it was then transmitted to a facility to be duplicated and then interrogated. So we got us a Thomas Riker who was then Captain Marveled(recent movie) into brainwashed/memory blocked. Weaponized to think he's some kind of shock troop(hence the Sarge)
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It's already established that Sarge is from an alternate universe. That seems like all the explanation we need. Maybe it would be clearer if he had a goatee?
It's clear that Sarge was in an alternate universe. It is not yet clear he is from that alternate universe. What his deal is will become clearer with more episodes.
I think we've been given a pretty clear impression that this is a seasoned crew that's been jumping (sliding?) between universes for a long time. They have their routines down pat, they have a ragtag bunch assembled from multiple different worlds (some with different atmospheric needs), and they seem hardened and world-weary. They've probably been at it for far longer than the year since Coulson's death. I just don't see any realistic reason to suspect that this is some kind of reincarnation or clone of our Coulson, when the Occam's Razor answer is staring us in the face. (Shaving us in the face? Try Occam's Brand Razors! The cleanest shave is always the best!)
Occam's Razor: 1) is the first resort of the chronically unimaginative, and 2) was not intended to be applied to made-up stories.
Indeed, it's about the worst tool one could use to deduce the solution to a constructed mystery since there's a mind (or minds) behind said story, and they are well aware what the obvious answers would be and how to misdirect.
Clearly they're establishing some deeper connection beyond "Coulson from Earth-199991". What that is and how it'll play out, we'll just have to wait and see. From what little Gregg has said, it seems unlikely that he's simply an evil doppelganger.
Indeed, it's about the worst tool one could use to deduce the solution to a constructed mystery since there's a mind (or minds) behind said story, and they are well aware what the obvious answers would be and how to misdirect.
Clearly they're establishing some deeper connection beyond "Coulson from Earth-199991". What that is and how it'll play out, we'll just have to wait and see. From what little Gregg has said, it seems unlikely that he's simply an evil doppelganger.
Seriously?
When applied to works of fiction, yeah. 100%.
Yeah, I really think there is going to be some kind of a direct connection to our Coulson, so that way they can use Sarge as a way to bring back 616/199999 Coulson.
When they killed off Coulson at the end of last season, they thought the show wasn't going to come back, and now that they have they are back they've brought Clark Gregg back as a character who seems to be connected to our Coulson. So I think there's plenty of evidence right now to point to Sarge as our way of getting Coulson back.
I just can't see them continuing the show for even another season without Coulson, he's just. Now yes there have been a few shows that have killed off their main character, like The Walking Dead, and Vikings, but once the character was dead, they also go rid of the actor.
I give them more credit than that. I don't think they'd be so creatively lazy as to just find some way to reverse Coulson's death a second time. Five years ago, they made sure they brought him back in a way that wasn't just a casual reset, they made sure it had lasting consequences, and then they brought his story to a respectful close. I'd like to think that what they're doing now is telling a story that gives Clark Gregg a new character to play and doesn't undermine the impact of the story they told before.
They can connect the character to Coulson without him actually being Coulson. Look at Penny-23 on The Magicians and Laurel-2/Black Siren on Arrow. They're both very different people from the deceased doppelgangers they replaced, and the writing in both shows has leaned into that change and to the fact that the duplicate characters can never be the people that the other characters wish they could be. In both cases, the purpose of the storyline was to keep the actors around and give them new challenges and character directions to keep it interesting, which is so much better than just reversing a meaningful story change. I'd like to think the AoS writers are good enough to take a similar approach rather than falling back on the cozy cliche.
The fact that past shows have done things a certain way is the best argument for not doing it the same way. What's wrong with trying something new? AoS has always been an ensemble show anyway.
There's clearly something more going on with him vaguely recognizing the name Coulson. They didn't play that beat for no reason. Exactly what the connection is remains to be seen.
Yeah, but if he's a parallel-world doppelganger, it logically follows that he's the son of Mr. and Mrs. Coulson of Earth-Whatever. Maybe he was orphaned so young that he barely remembers his birth name.
But if it were something that basic, they wouldn't have bothered making it a vague recollection. He'd know his name and his reaction would have been more along the lines of "Yeah, what's it to you?"
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?"
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